RE: [council] Case for asynchronous (and nonlive) vote

[Mawaki Chango <ki_chango@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello all,

Thanks Bruce. I'd like to note that I am in support of the GNSO
Council resolutions of November 16 which I was not able to vote for
on the call and which have been posted to date on the GNSO discussion
list.

Following your response, Bruce, to the point I made previously, I'm
suspecting that problematic cases might arise if a few of those lost
votes would make a difference. 

It's also worth noting that we've seen issues that had triggered much
of the discussion on the list before the teleconference call for vote
(and the discussion on the call didn't bring anything new, or
decisive.) So maybe we need to think of making allowances so that in
certain conditions the vote off call would count? I know it can be
complex, but maybe we could make sure we have considered all the
options.

Regards,

Mawaki

--- Bruce Tonkin <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hello Mawaki,
> 
> 
> > 
> > I know we have discussed this before but we didn't seem to 
> > come to a consensus about this, if I'm not mistaken. While 
> > the council has decided not to allow proxy anymore for voting 
> > (I must say I've forgotten how that decision was made), 
> 
> The requirement derives from this bylaws rule:
> 
> "Members of the GNSO Council may participate in a meeting of the
> GNSO
> Council through use of (i) conference telephone or similar
> communications equipment, provided that all members participating
> in
> such a meeting can speak to and hear one another or (ii) electronic
> video screen communication or other communication equipment;
> provided
> that (a) all members participating in such a meeting can speak to
> and
> hear one another, (b) all members are provided the means of fully
> participating in all matters before the GNSO Council, and (c) ICANN
> adopts and implements means of verifying that (x) a person
> participating
> in such a meeting is a member of the GNSO Council or other person
> entitled to participate in the meeting and (y) all actions of, or
> votes
> by, the GNSO Council are taken or cast only by the members of the
> GNSO
> Council and not persons who are not members. "
> 
> The important point being that all members can "speak to and hear
> one
> another".  The basis for this I believe is that Council members
> make a
> decision after hearing all the arguments for and against a
> particular
> motion.
> 
> 
> 
> > wouldn't it be possible and even desirable to allow the staff 
> > to record councilors' vote in cases where attending the call, 
> > they might have been prevented for technical reasons to be 
> > present on the call at the moment of the vote?
> 
> 
> Probably depends on just how much of a discussion was missed, but
> in the
> past what we have done is recorded the way a Council member would
> vote
> in the minutes
> 
> E.g
> 
> "Motion passed x votes to y votes"
> 
> Council member "z" wasn't present for the vote, but attended the
> meeting
> for most of the discussion.    "z" wishes to note the he/she is in
> favour/against the motion.
> 
> Regards,
> Bruce Tonkin
> 
> 



 
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