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Re: [registrars] FYI re: Transfers

  • To: Richard Lau <richard@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [registrars] FYI re: Transfers
  • From: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 12:21:02 -0400
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Richard Lau wrote:
Ross Rader wrote:
"Inappropriate is ripping off registrants to line your own pocket."

Isn't the "internal transfer fulfilment" (or whatever one wants to call it)
just that? The ICANN policy (as JB just pointed out) was quite clear in its
intention that if a domain isn't renewed by a registrant, then the domain is
to be deleted.

Not unless the Registrant intended to keep the name. In which case, they should be allowed to do so. Net of this, its not unreasonable for a change of registrant to take place if the prior registrant had originally intended simply not to renew. ICANN's policy is simply indicating that if the renewal doesn't happen, the domain should be deleted. In this case, the renewal does take place pursuant to a change of registrant.

The RGP period has also been contracted around. Many registrars have their
registrants agree that the domain can be transferred immediately upon
expiration with no "emulated" RGP (while others actually offer a longer fake
RGP of more than 30 days).

RGP isn't a policy, its a registry service. Registrars are under no obligation to extend the registries RGP to their clients. Many registrars have instead implemented their own and as you point out, some have done nothing. I don't think its reasonable at any level for a post-expiry change of registrant to take place unless the original registrant has some means by which to reverse the process and reclaim their registration. Mistakes happen, names expire by accident. Registrants shouldn't be unduly penalized when this happens.

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Regards,

Ross Rader
Director, Retail Services
Tucows Inc.

http://www.domaindirect.com
t. 416.538.5492



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