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Re: [registrars] Regarding transition to market forces

  • To: Tom C <tomc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [registrars] Regarding transition to market forces
  • From: Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 11:07:40 -0500
  • Cc: John Berryhill <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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There's a difference between cost and price. I doubt that the actual cost of your latte was actually less than the actual cost of a domain name. At a general level, increased costs eventually lead to higher prices - decreased costs, do not always lead to higher prices.

Further *we*, collectively, do not "allow" anything as it relates to the price of domain names. Prices are, and should be, set by each individual registrar. NSI and Starbucks have chosen a different model than Godaddy and Dunkin' Donuts, that's all (with apologies to my esteemed colleagues from NSI and Godaddy).




Tom C wrote:
My question is, at what point do we stop allowing market forces to continue driving prices down? Let's be honest, consumers are not demanding lower prices. It is Registrars, and web hosts, who have made the decision to compete on price, rather than on service. With current prices at $1.99, $2.99, $5.99 and $6.49, I believe we are doing far more damage to our industry with lower pricing than with higher.

Market forces do not always lead to lower prices. The auto industry, home prices, gas prices, real estate and coffee are just a few examples. My grande double shot, extra hot, vanilla latte at Starbucks cost more this morning than a domain name at some Registrars, and it wasn't good for a year.

-Tom

John Berryhill wrote:

I am not aware of market forces leading to an increase.  I certainly
haven't seen that amongst registrars where market forces do apply.

...which, Bruce, is precisely what is stated in the Q&A 1.4: "Prices have
dropped from US$50 per year for a .COM domain name to as low as under US$10
since ICANN introduced registry and registrar competition in 1999"

Uhmmm, gee, so in the competitive registrar market, prices dropped by a
factor of five, but "market forces" dictate a 7% per year increase
henceforth at the registry?  And this is despite the fact that .com is a
"thin" registry.  So here our anonymous ICANNite is basically saying that
the registrars maintain more data and provide more customer service than the
registry on margins of less than four dollars.

This is not a "Q&A", this is a case study in dissociative identity disorder.
One shudders to imagine the childhood trauma responsible for this
manifestation, but the author is in need of professional help before the
apparent inner tension leads to physical problems.

These are words intended to obfuscate, not illuminate.








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