Re: [registrars] Variations on the current domain name model - proposed registrar workshop for Luxembourg

["Marcus Faure" <faure@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I second Jay's proposal. A quota on the abuse period can solve this problem,
just like it could solve the "add commend" issue we discussed in Capetown.

Yours,
Marcus


> I would suggest that the solution is a fee to delete within 5 days.
> Something like 75 cents. For those that registering 100,000 domains in a day
> it would curb their appetite from trying them out for free. And for those
> that made a true mistake it would allow them delete with a small processing
> fee. Since typos happen, it may be more prudent to allow registrars that
> successful keeps domains longer then 5 days to get a ratio of free deletes.
> 
> I would suggest 1 free delete per 200 domains successfully and newly
> registered longer then 5 days. I would love to see some more discussion
> about this and then by Friday I would like to propose a formal motion along
> these lines.
> 
> The abuse is huge. Over 750K domains were registered in one day the other
> week! Then almost all were deleted in the 5 day free abuse period.
> 
> Jay Westerdal
> Name Intelligence, Inc.
> http://www.nameintelligence.com  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [registrars] Variations on the current domain name model -
> proposed registrar workshop for Luxembourg
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> The add grace period abuse needs to be addressed separately. I see no
> benefit in dilluting that issue by labeling it a business model.
> 
> This practice has broad and complicated implications that we would have
> to resolve first, IP infringement for example.
> 
> I really think the AGP is a seperate discussion.
> 
> Tim
>  
> 
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [registrars] Variations on the current domain name model -
> > proposed registrar workshop for Luxembourg
> > From: "Bruce Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Sun, May 29, 2005 9:44 pm
> > To: registrars@xxxxxxxx
> > 
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > The dominant model for domain names across com/net/org/biz/info etc,
> > consists of registering a domain name for a fixed fee for one year, up
> > to 10 years.  There is no registry discount for multiple years.   There
> > is a grace period of 5 days, where a name can be registered, and then
> > deleted for a refund.  This is presently being used for domain name
> > buyers that want to attempt to measure the traffic associated with a
> > particular name, and then decide whether to keep.  It is effectively
> > being treated as a 5 day free trial, rather than a grace period to
> > account for registration mistakes.
> > 
> > I believe it is time that we saw some changes in the dominant model -
> > towards a choice of models that match the characteristics of different
> > markets.
> > 
> > Here are some example markets:
> > (1) Corporates - they want to register a name for up to 10 years, and
> > tend to operate their own DNS and hosting infrastructure.   The current
> > model suits this market best.
> > 
> > (2) Web hosting companies - they want to bundle a domain name with
> > hosting.  A model where a name can be registered for a 30 day period,
> > with auto-renewal might suit their business model.
> > 
> > (3) Domain name owners that monetise names via pay-per-click traffic.  A
> > model where there is a longer "free trial" period may be of interest.
> > 
> > I propose that we have a workshop at Luxembourg - similar to the
> > workshop that proposed different approaches to resolving contention for
> > deleted names - that invites ideas on different domain name models that
> > could be offered at the registry.  These would be new registry services
> > and would need approval from ICANN, and would need to be available to
> > all registrars.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Bruce Tonkin
>