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Re: [registrars] gTLD Registry Maintenance Notices

  • To: Donny Simonton <donny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [registrars] gTLD Registry Maintenance Notices
  • From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 07:09:40 -0400
  • Cc: "'tbarrett'" <tbarrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Larry Erlich'" <erlich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Tim Ruiz'" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>, michael@xxxxxxxxxx, registrars@xxxxxxxx, dam@xxxxxxxxx, "'Marie. Zitkova'" <Marie.Zitkova@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Miriam Sapiro'" <msapiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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On 4/25/2004 9:09 PM Donny Simonton noted that:

I don't like the email system we currently have, and I think RSS feeds would
be just as bad if not worse than what we have right now.  The reason is very
simple, if a registry goes down they wouldn't have to notify us, they would
just post something via RSS feed.  So what would happen, people would be
checking it every 30 seconds to make sure there are no problems.

If the net utility exceeds the net efficiency, then the sum still works out in the customer's (registrar's) favor. We need a more useful notification format - lets not over-analyze the various proposals, lets encourage them. Registrars have a really bad habit of pre-negotiating with themselves instead of keeping maximum options open.

If we had a combination of email and RSS that would probably help.  Hell,
why not just allow us to poll it via EPP.  Why involve RSS when we already
have a system in place.

EPP is basically just a message format - RSS is basically a document format. Very similar animals. You are talking about the merits of different transport mechanisms. Very different from document and message formats. I don't think that making EPP recognize another message/document format really makes a ton of sense any more than scrapping the existing mail system in favor of the "one correct implementation" (whatever that may be...)

So lets talk requirements...here's a list that we can all add to...

We need...

1. the registries to improve their out of band notifications mechanisms.

2. to be able to parse registry notifications more effectively.

3. to be able to repurpose the registry notification payload more easily. These notification messages will be used by registrars for purposes the registries did not intend nor expect.

4. to ensure that the right people internally receive only the notifications appropriate to their job function.

5. to minimize changes to existing systems.

6. to minimize implementation and operational costs for all parties.



Problem solved!  Next problem.

If that doesn't work, at least an option via the registries to have a
downtime mailing list.  So at least we could send it to the people who
actually need the information.  Our CFO really doesn't care if .name will be
down for 4 hours on Saturday.  But CS and Network Operations do.

Unless the messages are parseable, we just create a larger problem...I'd love to be able to parse these messages on this end and trigger various events based on their contents.

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                       -rwr








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