RE: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Baptista
> Sent: 29 July 2007 03:12
> To: Gomes, Chuck
> Cc: Danny Younger; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> 
> Sorry Chuck but what has happened in Korea (and elsewhere i'm 
> sure) is yet another clear example of the short sightedness 
> of Verisign and friends.
> 
> You migh as well go all the way and decomission a root server 
> or two.  
> The effect is basically the same.  Companies like Verisign 
> and friends must accept the fact that once you provide a 
> service you should not remove it.  Your company made a 
> committment.  Users took you up on that committment based on 
> your reputations.  Yes I accept these reputations are largely 
> based on hype and marketing sling slang and have little to do 
> with technical competence or reality.  Non the less people 
> depend on Verisign and they have let them down.
> 
> Its time again for Verisign to show some spine.  Turn the 
> service back on.  Give your user based that depends on you 
> what you promissed.  The only time technology like this 
> should be turned off is when traffic analysis of the service 
> shows conclusively that no one uses it anymore.
> 
> cheers
> joe baptista
> 
> Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> 
> >VeriSign implemented the Web-based navigation system in January 2003.
> >The system was implemented as a temporary bridging solution 
> to improve 
> >the user experience by providing distribution of the 
> i-Nav(tm) plug-in 
> >until software that supported the Internationalized Domain 
> Name (IDNs) 
> >standards was more readily available.  The i-Nav plug-in is 
> a tool that 
> >users can download and use to navigate IDNs at the browser level.
> >
> >Because an increasing number of browsers now support IDNs, 
> on July 25, 
> >2007, VeriSign completed the decommissioning of its Web-based 
> >navigation system as a distribution mechanism for the i-Nav 
> plug-in.  
> >VeriSign notified all registrars in May 2007 that the 
> decommissioning 
> >would take place.
> >
> >It is important to note that VeriSign has not decommissioned 
> the i-Nav 
> >plug-in.  In fact, the i-Nav plug-in is still available for download 
> >and remains supported by VeriSign, (To download the i-Nav 
> plug-in visit
> >www.idnnow.com.)
> >
> >The decommissioning of the Web-based navigation system had 
> no impact to 
> >the current users of the i-Nav plug-in or IDN-enabled browsers.
> >However, for those who are not using the i-Nav plug-in or an 
> >IDN-enabled browser, VeriSign strongly recommends they install an 
> >IDN-enabled browser of their choice to continue to enjoy 
> navigating the 
> >Web using IDNs in their own language. A few sample browsers 
> currently 
> >supporting IDNs are as follows:
> >
> >*	Microsoft Internet Explorer
> >URL: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/downloads/ie/getitnow.mspx
> >Platform: Windows XP, Windows Server 2003
> >Version: 7.0 and higher
> > 
> >*	Netscape Navigator (English only)
> >URL: http://browser.netscape.com/ns8/
> >Platform: Windows
> >Version: 7.0 and higher
> >
> >*	Opera Web Browser
> >URL: http://www.opera.com
> >Platform: Windows, Mac OS X, Linux
> >Version: 7.2 and higher
> >
> >*	Firefox
> >URL: http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/
> >Platform: Windows, Mac OS X, Linux
> >Version: 0.6 and higher
> >
> >For those users who wish to continue to use older versions 
> of Microsoft 
> >Internet Explorer such as Internet Explorer 5 or 6, VeriSign's i-Nav 
> >plug-in is still available for download at 
> http://www.idnnow.com. This 
> >plug-in will continue to be a valuable add-on for Internet 
> Explorer 5 
> >or
> >6 running on old versions of Windows platforms such as 
> Windows 98, NT 
> >and 2000.
> >
> >Chuck Gomes
> > 
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> > 
> >
> >  
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Danny Younger
> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:03 AM
> >>To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [ga] VeriSign & Korean IDN.com issues
> >>
> >>Posted to ICANN's Public Partiocipation Website:
> >>
> >>Hello, I'm a server manager in a Korean web hosting company.
> >>The recently big obstacle occurs in connection of Hangul(Korean 
> >>alphabet) .com domain. Currently 92% of the Korean Internet 
> users when 
> >>using the Hangul.com and Hangul.net domain which is registered can 
> >>only see the message "Page cannot be displayed". Before previously 
> >>20th passed, it does not same current status.
> >>
> >>So, All of Hangul IDNs registrants are put on the serious monetary 
> >>damage and broken fame of their site.
> >>I asked a cause in various registrar and found out that is 
> >>discontinues i-nav navigation server operations which the Verisign 
> >>operates from Korea and the various area does.
> >>
> >>Verisign positions which I listen from Korean registrars 
> is, because 
> >>MS released ie 7.0, there are not necessity to operating i-nav 
> >>navigation.
> >>But this judgement is to be incorrect at least in Korea.
> >>
> >>After release of MS ie 7.0 at 2006 November, world-wide 4 
> browsers all 
> >>under supporting IDNs. But 93% of the Korean Internet users 
> as yet is 
> >>using ie6.0. If there is not i-nav navigation, millions of 
> domain will 
> >>not be able to use entirely.
> >>
> >>Because of i-nav navigation, although MS did not update against ie 
> >>IDNs after IDNs international standard published, Hangul 
> IDN service 
> >>is possible.
> >>Currently the connection of the Hangul .com and Hangul .net IDN in 
> >>Korea absolutely depends in i-nav navigation.
> >>
> >>Unlike with Europe or the United States, only 7.34% Korean use the 
> >>browser which support IDNs. 99% of the Korean Internet users use MS 
> >>Internet Explorer, but market share of 7.0 versions which 
> support IDNs 
> >>still stop in 6.8%. And IE 7.0 has not in prospect to 
> automatic update 
> >>in near future In Korea.
> >>From Friday which passes, when Korea 92.5% Internet user 
> inputs Hangul 
> >>.com in the address window, they does not get any result , 
> or, on top 
> >>of that they moved toward the dangerous fishing site. Of course, to 
> >>previously that also these users will be able to visit a 
> Hangul .com 
> >>and Hangul .net site through i-nav web navigation server.
> >>
> >>Because well to know Korean Internet environment the KRNIC which is 
> >>Korean ccTLD registry operates a difference server for Hangul.kr 
> >>domain will be able to connected right site without help of 
> browser. 
> >>Verisign judged i-nav navigation server retirement at least without 
> >>consideration about this situation.
> >>
> >>Follows Korean registrars, they are sending a request 
> Verisign. But it 
> >>is difficult situation expecting positive answer. If this 
> >>disconnection of Hangul.com and Hangul.net domain is continued, it 
> >>will bring result which put the thousands of registrant on enormous 
> >>loss and, lose the foundation of IDNs from hereafter Korea.
> >>
> >>Based on these facts, I proposes ICANN and Verisign to know about 
> >>seriousness of problem and to take the appropriate management. I 
> >>expects your countermove with deep consideration the 
> universality of 
> >>domain and Internet.
> >>
> >>Thank you for reading my poor English.
> >>
> >>* the statistical data which it refers to be referred from 
> >>www.internettrend.co.kr reports.
> >>
> >>http://public.icann.org/forums/public-forum#comment-321
> >>
> >>
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> Joe Baptista                                www.publicroot.org
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