RE: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff
 
I think you are taking this to unnecessary extremes.  As I do not reside in
the US I am not governed by US law and thus your intimation of fraud in
relation to the proposed list rules is unjust.  I am, however, governed by
the laws of reasonableness and rationality.

Best

Debbie 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 13 July 2007 12:52
> To: Debbie Garside
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU
> 
> Debbie and all,
> 
>   Unfortunately this is a URL listing i.e. web address, and 
> therefore is not *Authoratative* in accordance with US law at 
> the moment.
> Secondly, your posting of this link is arguably in violation of the
> *Proposed* rules which you and Dr. Dierker are wanting to sell.
> 
> However I shall have my sect. send off a notarized letter 
> requesting confirmation and the authoratativeness of the link 
> you provided.
> I will scan and post any response if forthcoming.  If none is 
> received, I believe the link would legally have to be 
> something less than *Authoratative* under US law < see 
> Loraine decision for non authoritative reference, see: 
> http://www.findlaw.com/ search key words as are appropriate 
> >, and treated accordingly by law abiding US citizens.
> 
>   Address:
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> 
> 
> Debbie Garside wrote:
> 
> > I have no qualms in providing an authoritative reference for the 
> > official languages of Canada.
> >
> > http://www.ocol-clo.gc.ca/html/index_e.php
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Williams
> > > Sent: 13 July 2007 09:14
> > > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU
> > >
> > > Kim and all,
> > >
> > >   I believe Dr. Dierker has a concern regarding "officialdom"
> > > as it implies a legality.  So until we have some 
> agreement by vote 
> > > of the list members, which we do not now, I don't want to offend 
> > > anyone by declaring or providing reference for anything 
> which would 
> > > even imply authoritative in any manner.
> > >
> > >   Secondly, recently in the "Loraine" case I believe the 6th US 
> > > District court of Appeals, Judge Grimm ruled effectively 
> there are 
> > > no references on the internet that would be authoritative as I 
> > > believe your use and meaning of the term here.  Although 
> I disagree 
> > > with Judge Grimm's ruling, I believe for me to provide 
> any reference 
> > > as "authoritative"
> > > could be considered a willful act of fraud on my part.  So your 
> > > request *as stated* makes answering it directly in conflict with 
> > > that ruling.  Hence I cannot ethically provide the answer you 
> > > requested.
> > >
> > >   Btw, I also noticed, Roberto also refrained from providing any 
> > > "authoritative" reference for his claim.. He may be right 
> and I may 
> > > be wrong or vice versa.  After searching I did find two 
> references 
> > > that contradicted each other as to this issue, using ask.com of 
> > > course.  >:)
> > >
> > >   Frankly however I fail to see the relevance of this 
> issue to the 
> > > GA, which is yet another stated concern of the chair.
> > > As such, refraining form such relevance, however 
> mitigating one may 
> > > believe the relevance of this issue is or is not, I believe would 
> > > require a measured consensus, i.e. a vote by the GA 
> members once we 
> > > have a viable voting method agreed upon.
> > >
> > >   So in conclusion, I am sorry I cannot more directly answer your 
> > > valid request, as the chair, and lack of a defined 
> agreeable process 
> > > and rules, are not yet in place for the NEW GA by which I 
> *might* be 
> > > able to do so.
> > >
> > > Kim Davies wrote:
> > >
> > > > Quoting Jeff Williams on Thursday July 12, 2007:
> > > > |
> > > > | > And Canada happens to have two official languages,
> > > English and French.
> > > > |
> > > > | Incorrect, Canadas official language is still English.
> > > >
> > > > Can you provide the authoritative reference? The Official 
> > > > Languages Act of Canada concurs with Robert's assessment.
> > > >
> > > > kim
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders
> > > strong!) "Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > >    Abraham Lincoln
> > >
> > > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not 
> with what is 
> > > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> > >
> > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the 
> burden, B; 
> > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] 
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> Regards,
> 
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders 
> strong!) "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>    Abraham Lincoln
> 
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with 
> what is very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> 
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the 
> burden, B; liability depends upon whether B is less than L 
> multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947] 
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security 
> IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail 
> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  Registered Email addr with the USPS 
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> 
> 
> 
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