RE: [ga] Increased foreign attendance

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Good :-)  Maybe we can work together (on whatever it is this forum is
working on). 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: 29 June 2007 09:08
> To: Debbie Garside
> Cc: veni@xxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
> 
> Debbie and all,
> 
>   Anyone here can tell you, neither am I.  >:/
> 
> Debbie Garside wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Veni
> >
> > I'm not known for giving up :-)
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Debbie
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Veni Markovski [mailto:venimarkovski@xxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of 
> > > veni markovski
> > > Sent: 28 June 2007 17:49
> > > To: Debbie Garside
> > > Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ga] Increased foreign attendance
> > >
> > > Dear Debbie,
> > > perhaps now you can see for yourself why people at this list are 
> > > quite quiet - if someone like you makes any attempts to bring the 
> > > discussion to the common sense, he or she will be blamed 
> immediately 
> > > as someone who either a) doesn't understand, or b) has no 
> knowledge 
> > > [of this long history].
> > >
> > > Now that I think about it, it reminds me very much of the Soviet 
> > > propaganda from the 1970s. "The world imperialism", "the 
> > > international situation", "progressive humankind" and 
> such cliches 
> > > were in the daily news, 365 days every year, and in intercalary 
> > > years it was 366 days when i was hearing such spells.
> > >
> > > However, to end at a positive note - I think what you are writing 
> > > makes more sense than many of the other cliches we see 
> around ICANN.
> > > It's always good to hear someone new, unencumbered with this long 
> > > history.
> > >
> > > Don't give up! And don't pay attention to the negativists.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Veni
> > >
> > > At 08:15 6/28/2007  -0700, sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > Hi Danny
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for the outline.  I can, somewhat, understand your
> > > frustration.
> > > > > However as an observer I can perhaps see why, I have been
> > > subscribed
> > > > > to this list since December 2006 and from what I can see the 
> > > > > majority of posts are highly critical of ICANN and not in any 
> > > > > way constructive; it is the constructive aspect that 
> is missing.
> > > >
> > > >Well, Debbie, here's some food for thought for you... those
> > > of us who
> > > >have been on these ICANN mailing lists since 1998 have seen our 
> > > >constructive input completely ignored for 8 years before 
> you came 
> > > >along.  Perhaps we're a little tired of being ignored? More
> > > than just a little frustrated...?
> > > >Perhaps we're tired of obsequious johnny-come-latelies of the 
> > > >"civil society" sort showing up who know nothing of the 
> history of
> > > ICANN and
> > > >telling us how to be constructive?  Perhaps you should 
> familiarize 
> > > >yourself with ICANN history before you come out scolding 
> those of 
> > > >us who have been members of these mailing lists as well as
> > > original ICANN
> > > >At-Large Members for many years before you even knew there
> > > was an ICANN...
> > > >
> > > >SS
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
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