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Re: [ga] Verisign has broken IDN?

  • To: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Verisign has broken IDN?
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:04:38 -0800
  • Cc: Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, General Assembly of the DNSO <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <046F43A8D79C794FA4733814869CDF07019A7657@dul1wnexmb01.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Chuck and all,

  It does for me, thanks.

Gomes, Chuck wrote:

> Andy,
>
> I spoke with Gary Krall who is the technical director responsible for
> the i-Nav plug-in yesterday about this and have learned the following:
>
> 1)  Gary and his team worked closely with the IE7 product team when it
> was first learned that there was a conflict between the two.  As a
> consequence there were a number of procedures which were put into place
> in an attempt to minimize, as much as possible, any issues on the part
> of users when upgrading.  Note that the situation only occurs for
> current XP-SP2/IE6 users who have i-Nav installed and who are upgrading
> their browser to IE7.
>
> Following the upgrade of the browser, i-Nav is **automatically
> disabled** by IE7 itself and when the user opens their browser they are
> presented with the error message which I am attaching in screenshot
> 'inav_warn.jpg' (this language is localized based on language of IE7).
> If the user clicks on the button to Check for Update they are then
> directed to a page like this
> http://idn.verisign-grs.com/plug-in/ie7/english.html which I am also
> attaching as a screenshot 'inav_upgraded.jpg'. This page has also been
> localized in 19 languages.
>
> 2)  Related to your second point it is the case that China has blocked
> access to "idn.verisign-grs.com" - however our plug-in does not need to
> access this to work properly in and of itself.   In the case of the
> scenario outlined above clearly if the user clicks on "Check for Update"
> this request will be blocked and they will not be presented with the
> information as noted above.  If a user in China has i-Nav installed in
> any browser version other than IE7, not being able to reach
> idn.verisign-grs.com has no effect as to the proper functioning of
> i-Nav.
>
> What you may be referring to is the actual distribution of i-Nav through
> the Web Navigation system or for that matter resolution of dotCom or
> dotNet IDNs in China for users who do not have software installed which
> will handle the appropriate conversion.  By blocking access to this
> domain users in China could in fact experience dotCom or dotNet IDN
> resolution problems because there is no mechanism available to perform
> the appropriate conversion required for IDN resolution.  This
> restriction is unrelated to i-Nav if the user has it already installed.
>
> Hope this helps to clear up some of the rumors.
>
> Chuck Gomes
> VeriSign Information Services
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy Gardner
> > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 4:03 PM
> > To: General Assembly of the DNSO
> > Subject: [ga] Verisign has broken IDN?
> >
> >
> > Two rumours I have heard:
> >
> > 1: Verisign's IDN plugin for IE6 breaks IDN support in IE7.
> > Has to be
> > manually disabled. If a user upgrades from IE6 to IE7, all
> > IDN's stop
> > working.
> >
> > 2: China has blocked access to verisign-grs.com. It appears that
> > Verisign's plugin needs to access idn.verisign-grs.com to actually
> > work properly (not sure why) but this has effectively killed off all
> > IDN based websites for people in China using ie6 - even IDN websites
> > hosted within China.
> >
> > Comments anyone?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                           Name: inav_warn.jpg
>    inav_warn.jpg          Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg)
>                       Encoding: base64
>                    Description: inav_warn.jpg
>
>                              Name: inav_upgrade.jpg
>    inav_upgrade.jpg          Type: JPEG Image (image/jpeg)
>                          Encoding: base64
>                       Description: inav_upgrade.jpg

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