Re: [ga] ICANN Board unanimously approves .biz/.info/.org registry agreements by 13-0

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Veni, you compared ICANN to the way government works, not me. Your feeble 
attempt at changing that is really pathetic. We have been trying for years 
to get ICANN to change things and do what was promised to the Internet 
community. You cannot even pretend you had the best interests of users at 
heart when you voted for that.

Your acceptance among the bigshots you were dealing with seems much more 
important to you. Yes, I directly call your ethics questionable. The reason 
for public comment is so that ICANN can see what the consensus is. Of course 
there will be times when you go against consensus, but that is supposed to 
be the exception, not the rule.

You have never once answered the question, what do you describe as a bottom 
up consensus in regards to ICANN. You dodge that question every time it has 
been asked. You never represented the users of the Internet and you don't do 
so now.

And yes, I do represent the opinions of many users. I am a small businessman 
who uses the internet to do business. Consistantly ICANN has favored large 
business over the needs of individual users and small business owners. You 
were part of that. You still are.

Your arrogant attitude suggests every time you post that you know better 
than everyone else what is good for the users. In actuality, you don't have 
a clue and are rather ignorant on the sunject altogether. Ignorant as in not 
knowing any better. Arrogant in believing you do.

Personally I don't care that you believe you are being personally attacked. 
You attacked the users by ignoring the consensus and voting against them. 
This is defensive on my part, not offensive. I'm getting really tired of you 
and Vint saying you are looking out for us and that you represent millions 
of users. It's a lie and the decisions and votes prove it.

This definitely has to be taken to another level.

Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
http://www.articlecontentprovider.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Veni Markovski" <veni@xxxxxxxx>
To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Dominik Filipp" 
<dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>; "Veni Markovski" <veni@xxxxxxxx>; "icann board 
address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "General Assembly of the DNSO" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN Board unanimously approves .biz/.info/.org registry 
agreements by 13-0


> At 12:14 PM 11.12.2006 '?.'  -0500, kidsearch wrote:
> > Your analogy holds no merit at all Veni. Governments are not bound by 
> > agreements that state they must make decisions based on a bottom-up 
> > consensus. It is directly opposite of how government runs. ICANN is not a 
> > government Veni, so analogies like that only show you do not understand 
> > the process you were involved in. As for the other directors, it shows the 
> > same about them.
> >
> > It is you people that want to run it like a government, not the user 
> > community. But if you choose analogies based on governments, at least the 
> > people get a vote. The representatives in government were elected not 
> > selected. As a director of ICANN, you did not even have the RIGHT to go 
> > against the consensus.
>
> Chris,
> why don't you just stop interpreting what I said, making it suitable for 
> your needs, and instead take a look at what is written? The question here 
> is not about comparing ICANN to a government - that's what you do. The 
> question is about percentages...
> The rights of the directors are well written in a number of documents. If 
> you want the directors to vote the way you consider right, perhaps you 
> should try by changing the bylaws, and have a special article that says, 
> "no director should vote before consulting with Chris, and in no way he or 
> she should vote differently than Chris would have voted, had he been on 
> the Board". Or something similar.
>
> When someone votes against something, he gets blamed; when he votes for 
> something, he gets blamed again.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Veni Markovski
> http://www.veni.com
>
> check also my blog:
> http://blog.veni.com