Re: [ga] no problem with www.nukeisrael.com

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Esther and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

Again Esther you write/respond in parables.  Shutting down
*organizations* does shut down web sites..

Esther Dyson wrote:

> Imagine this same article, but now replace the
> domain names and organizations with Chinese
> dissident organizations.  I don't know what is
> actually said on these sites, nor what is said on
> the sites of Chinese dissidents, but I do know
> that it is *not* Tucows' job to be moral police
> or viiglantes.  If the Canadian gov wants to shut
> them down, then indeed the Canadian government
> should do so (if its laws so dictate).  But then
> they should shut down the *organizations,*  not just their websites.
>
> At 04:16 PM 3/10/2006, Danny Younger wrote:
> >For your consideration:
> >
> >http://www.judeoscope.ca/breve.php3?id_breve=0959
> > From the Internet Haganah:
> >
> >Tucows: Nuke Israel? No problem.
> >
> >When presented with Tucows involvement in maintaining
> >the domain name nukeisrael.com, a Tucows/OpenSRS
> >Compliance Officer responded on behalf of the company
> >as follows:
> >
> >Under what authorization would I be shutting down the
> >name?
> >
> >What *exactly* is wrong with the *domain name* and
> >where is it written (in our accreditation with ICANN)
> >that I have the authority to be the ?moral custodian
> >of the internet?
> >
> >We realize the following news may come as a shock to
> >Tucows and it?s employees, but they do not live on
> >Planet ICANN. They live on Earth, in a country called
> >Canada, where a state of affairs prevails that is
> >commonly known as The Rule of Law?.
> >
> >In the hope of clearing up the confusion regarding
> >
> >? "under what authorization?"
> >
> >? "what *exactly* is wrong?"
> >
> >and
> >
> >? "where is it written?"
> >
> >we refer one and all to Sections 318 and 319 of the
> >Criminal Code of Canada which make it a criminal
> >offence to:
> >
> >advocate genocide _ publicly incite hatred _ wilfully
> >promote hatred
> >
> >against an "identifiable group."
> >
> >An identifiable group is defined as any section of the
> >public distinguished by:
> >
> >colour _ race _ religion _ ethnic origin
> >
> >The domain name nukeisrael.com clearly advocates
> >genocide and wilfully promotes hatred to the point
> >that genocide is presented as a viable option.
> >
> >Israelis, being mostly Jews, constitute an
> >"identifiable group" by race and/or religion and/or
> >ethnic origin.
> >
> >Three out of four is pretty good when only one is
> >required.
> >
> >We present the complete Criminal Code references at
> >the end of this article.
> >
> >Regarding nukeisrael.com we?d say there is not much
> >left but for the RCMP to deliver the news to Tucows in
> >person. However, the above doesn?t even begin to
> >address the various jihadist, Islamic extremist and
> >terrorist organization domains that Tucows profits
> >from by providing them with vital services.
> >
> >A review of our database of jihadist and terrorist
> >organization websites finds the following domains
> >maintained currently by Tucows. A few of the domains
> >may not be associated with active websites at this
> >time:
> >
> >Domain Name: kavkazcenter.com
> >Orientation: Kavkaz/Chechen Jihadist
> >
> >Domain Name: fateh.org
> >Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
> >
> >Domain Name: palvoice.com
> >Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
> >
> >Domain Name: ikhwan.net
> >Orientation: Muslim Brotherhood
> >
> >Domain Name: www.alwatanvoice.com
> >Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
> >
> >Domain Name: jamaaway.org
> >Orientation: Palestinian Islamic Jihad
> >
> >Domain Name: kataebaqsa1.com
> >Orientation: Fatah-Tanzim-Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade
> >
> >Domain Name: www.alkotla.com
> >Orientation: Hamas
> >
> >Domain Name: moqawmh.com
> >Orientation: Popular Resistance Committee (Gaza)
> >
> >Domain Name: jihad-algerie.com
> >Orientation: al-Qaida (GSPC, Algeria)
> >
> >Domain Name: tasjeelat.net
> >Orientation: Salafyist/Jihadist
> >
> >Domain Name: khilafat.org
> >Orientation: Hizb ut-Tahrir
> >
> >Domain Name: Hizb-ut-Tahrir.info
> >Orientation: Hizb ut-Tahrir
> >
> >Domain Name: islamic-state.org
> >Orientation: Hizb ut-Tahrir
> >
> >Domain Name: jamaat-islamia.org
> >Orientation: Salafyist/Jihadist
> >
> >Domain Name: islamso.org
> >Orientation: Hamas
> >
> >Domain Name: alfirdaws.org
> >Orientation: Salafyist/Jihadist
> >
> >Domain Name: isocg.org
> >Orientation: Hamas
> >
> >Some of the above domains are clearly associated with
> >bona fide terrorist organizations. Others, such as the
> >Hizb ut-Tahrir sites, may well be in violation of
> >Canadian hate speech law, though that would require an
> >analysis of each site?s content. Note that Hizb
> >ut-Tahrir has been outlawed throughout much of the
> >world precisely because of such activity.
> >
> >While it is clear that neither domain name registrars
> >such as Tucows, nor datacenters, nor website hosting
> >companies really want to deal with issues such as
> >this, the fact remains that all such companies benefit
> >from the fact that they have a civil, lawful society
> >in which to operate. It is not unreasonable to expect
> >them to return the favor to society in the form of
> >responsible behavior. We have seen, in the recent case
> >of the domain names of the Ezzedine al-Qassam Brigades
> >of Hamas, that responsible domain name registrars
> >will, in fact, suspend a domain name when they finally
> >come to grips with the gravity of the situation. The
> >only question is how many times to you have to hit
> >them over the head with a clue-by-four before they
> >"get it".
> >
> >Full article at http://internet-haganah.co.il/harchives/005511.html
> >
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