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Re: [ga] RE: IDNs & the GNSO New TLD PDP

  • To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] RE: IDNs & the GNSO New TLD PDP
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:14:25 -0800
  • Cc: Vint Cerf <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <20051213155315.57719.qmail@web53504.mail.yahoo.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Danny and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

The answer to Danny's questioin is ICANN.

Danny Younger wrote:

> Vint,
>
> on the topic of upper bounds for IDN TLDs, if "for the
> present the suggested number is one" then I would
> think that selection criteria becomes rather important
> -- what type of IDN gets selected (and who makes that
> selection, the registry operator or ICANN)?.
>
> I recall the Discussion Paper on Non-ASCII Top-Level
> Domain Policy Issues that identified categories of
> potential TLD strings based on the semantic meaning of
> the string itself:
>
> 1. Semantic association with Geographic Units
> 2. Semantic association with Languages
> 3. Semantic association with Cultural Groups or
> Ethnicities
> 4. Semantic association with Existing Sponsored TLDs
> 5. Semantic association with Existing Unsponsored TLDs
>
> 6. Everything else.
>
> http://www.icann.org/committees/idn/non-ascii-tld-paper.htm
>
> Do you recall whether this earlier IDN Committee made
> any specific recommendations as to the best way
> forward?  Sorry, I couldn't find their follow-up work.
>
> --- Vint Cerf <vint@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> >  Danny,
> >
> > I think the IDN matter splits into several parts.
> > For gTLDs, IDNs are
> > potentially much harder to solve. There might be
> > more than one French
> > restriction table developed by France, Senegal,
> > Canada where potentially
> > different dialects of French are spoken. To take
> > Canada for example, it
> > could conceivably have a single TLD (.CA) and have a
> > restriction table for
> > French (if one is needed) as it is written in Canada
> > for registrations in
> > .CA. The restriction table might differ from the one
> > developed by France or
> > Senegal. A gTLD, such as .info, might have to choose
> > among several possible
> > tables or develop its own for registrations in
> > French.
> >
> > For ccTLDs, then, it would appear valuable for all
> > those ccTLDs who wish to
> > accept registrations in a given script and language,
> > to work together as the
> > Chines, Japanese and Koreans have. They developed a
> > common CJK plan.
> >
> > I did not intend in my earlier remarks to suggest
> > that the ccTLD operators
> > has to comply with the ICANN contract for gLTDs. I
> > only meant that the new
> > gTLD process should include provision for non-Roman
> > scripts (ie IDNs). I
> > agree with you that the ccNSO should take up the
> > question of IDNs for
> > themselves. I also think that it is important to
> > place an upper bound on the
> > allowed number of additional TLDs using non-Roman
> > scripts. For the present
> > the suggested number is one.
> >
> > This won't quite satisfy all needs since some
> > countries have more than one
> > official language and many may want registrations in
> > other unofficial
> > languages that are widely in use. In the US, where
> > English is the official
> > language, there is a considerable spanish speaking
> > population, for example.
> >
> >
> >
> > Vinton G Cerf
> > Chief Internet Evangelist
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> >
> > +1 703 234-1823
> > +1 703-234-5822 (f)
> >
> > vint@xxxxxxxxxx
> > www.google.com
> >
>
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Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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