Re: [ga] Vittorio Bertola on the At-Large
Danny Younger wrote: Excerpt from comments of Vittorio Bertola in "A draft for ALAC comment on ICANN Strategic Plan"
While ALAC is just starting its own internal review and therefore it is too early to make conclusive statements at this stage, we are concerned about the current state of AtLarge in its Outreach and policy involvement as described in the Strategic Plan. As mentioned above, individual users are not professionals in ICANNïs area of business. No ALAC members, for example, receive any compensation for the time they spend for ICANN activities, unlike employees or management of TLD operators or registrars or ISPs whose ICANN involvement is part and parcel of their business. But this was what you *knowingly* accepted and went forward with when you agreed to institute your ALAC, Vittorio. I didn't hear you complaining about being a volunteer last year, Vittorio. This whole affair smacks of the same disgusting side-mouthed swindle that Greg Burton 'chairmanship' of WG-Review represented. At least Mr. Burton had the good sense to disappear after he presented his 'abortion' of a Review, let's see about you, Vittorio. Will you slink away too?
And yet, you still have the addlebrained audacity to ask a little further on: "Does ICANN need At Large and public participation into its policy development process? And, if so, how?" Obviously, Vittorio, your faulty metaphysics have led you to a skewed epistemology wherewith you cannot possibly formulate a consistent ethical framework from which to cognize and act.
Is "nonsystematical" your way of saying *nonexistent*? I hope so, because a spade can never be anything but a spade... Are you aware of the Law of Identity, Vittorio? Due to several factors, there is yet little interaction among ALS members, and also between ALS and ALAC members. Over two years later and there is still "little interaction among ALS members, and also between ALS and ALAC members." Well, considering the Internet makes interaction so much more convenient for *millions* of people every day, one cannot help but wonder what were the "everal factors" you allude to, Vittorio, but do not clearly state? Of course it is primarily ALACïs own responsibility, and we are struggling to find the right way to exit from this situation; however, in doing so we cannot exclude the possibility of reaching the conclusion that the current ALS/RALO/ALAC framework may not take off, and that the present mechanisms f! or input and participation by the general public into ICANN policy making processes ï the ALAC and the GNSO NCUC ï are too burdensome and powerless to actually motivate a reasonable number of institutions and individuals to participate actively and regularly in the long term. Well now, that is an interesting way to put it, Vittorio. It took you over two years to figure it out? Ha! Obviously you are a shameless con.
Skepticism did exist at that time whether sufficient amount of real interest from individual users would mount to the visible and active level or not. Where were you when 0ver 75,000 registered AtLarge members voted in 2000? I was one of those 75,000, were you? We need to revisit this point seriously, and we may need to ask the following question: Does ICANN need At Large and public participation into its policy development process? And, if so, how? Two years ago you went ahead with 'your' ALAC scheme and you had all the answers. Now, you're even questioning the entire initiative? Wht about questioning your part in it for a change?
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