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Re: [ga] Contributions
- To: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Contributions
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 14:13:52 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
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<P>Eric, Dr. Joe, and all,</P>
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<P> I agree with the general idea here. I am not sure that we have
benefitted all that</P>
<P>much from Debbies contributions, and at too many times we have been
deminished,</P>
<P>including just recently by Debbie and Roberto. Although I found their
remarks</P>
<P>less than appealing, or accurate, it was at least of some small good
that they openly </P>
<P>shared such with us publicly. From such sharing, we now, and still
know that their</P>
<P>attitudes and minds are unchanged. What we don't know is the root
reason why,</P>
<P>no pun intended. But I will speculate based souley upon their recent
publicly</P>
<P>shared statements on the GA as to why, and it is that they haven't
been paying</P>
<P>close enough attention. ?? My guess as to why such is, is likely
to be grounded</P>
<P>in personal animosity and lack of will. If I am correct, in this
speculation, I have</P>
<P>to ethically find that such reasons are petty and far less than helpful or
productive.</P>
<P>If I am mistaken, than I appologize in advance.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Joe Baptista
<BAPTISTA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: May 2, 2010 1:31 PM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA"
<GA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Andy Gardner <ANDY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga]
Contributions <BR><BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Hugh Dierker <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx";
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<DIV>I do believe this is unsung work and deserves some recognition. I am
thinking of establishing an award in your name. I am very
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<DIV><BR>I agree.<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Narten has helped us greatly with the statistics that he claims are no big
deal.</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>That is a big help in establishing mandated participation in
accordance with the rules.<BR> <BR></DIV>
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<DIV>No one can deny Kirokis'
contributions</DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>yes he's a good agitator too ..<BR> <BR></DIV>
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<DIV>We have benefited greatly from Danny, Roberto, Karl and Avri. The list
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<DIV><BR>and let's not forget !Dr. Debbie.<BR> <BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Joe and Jeff while controversial have kept us alive in times of
innactivity and the constant bringing to light is good for
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<DIV><BR>shock treatment.<BR> </DIV>
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<DIV>Perhaps it is time we begin to honor these contributions and toot our own
horn a bit.<BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>We are a fantastic group of people. The only place where everything
ICANN comes to roost. We are also the oldest ICANN list in existence. I think
it's time ICANN gave us back our vote and our voice. Let us evolve and replace
ICANN.<BR><BR>cheers<BR>joe baptista<BR> </DIV>
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<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Sat, 5/1/10, Andy Gardner <I><<A
href="mailto:andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: Andy Gardner <<A
href="mailto:andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Godaddy mail
hostname = spam errors and possible security issue?<BR>To: "<A
href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; target=_blank>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> >>
GA" <<A href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 9:02
AM<BR><BR>
<DIV><BR><BR>Mail from a Registrar to a Registrant, rejected due to errors in
the Registrar's mail system is "tough luck" and not a potential security
problem for Registrants?<BR><BR>And a Registrar spoofiing someone else's
hostname is cool with you guys?<BR><BR>Sheesh.<BR><BR><BR>On May 1, 2010, at
10:07 AM, Hugh Dierker wrote:<BR><BR>> So this sure looks like an error
without a problem.<BR>> <BR>> --- On Fri, 4/30/10, Hugo Monteiro <<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx</A>> wrote:<BR>> <BR>> From:
Hugo Monteiro <<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> Subject: Re: [ga]
Godaddy mail hostname = spam errors and possible security issue?<BR>> To:
"Andy Gardner" <<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> Cc: "<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> >> GA" <<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>><BR>> Date: Friday, April 30, 2010,
3:25 PM<BR>> <BR>> On 04/30/2010 10:04 PM, Andy Gardner
wrote:<BR>>> Godaddy appears to use "made up" hostnames for SMTP HELO
entries...<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>> <BR>> Hello
Andy,<BR>> <BR>> That is in fact a shame, since the sending hostname DOES
have a proper DNS setup. Even so, RFC5321 does not mandate that the correct
HELO is to be provided. From section 4.1.1.1 we can extract:<BR>> <BR>>
"(...) The argument clause contains the fully-qualified domain name of the SMTP
client, if one is available. In situations in which the SMTP client system does
not have a meaningful domain name (e.g., when its address is dynamically
allocated and no reverse mapping record is available), the client SHOULD send
an address literal (...)"<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> Received:
from unknown (HELO <A href="http://gdmailer03.dc1.corp.gd";
target=_blank>gdmailer03.dc1.corp.gd</A>) (208.109.14.188) by <A
href="http://m1relayapp01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net";
target=_blank>m1relayapp01-01.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net</A> with
SMTP<BR>>> <BR>>> I can see a couple of problems with
this.<BR>>> <BR>>> 1. Many antiSPAM measure reject mail from
unknown hosts.<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> True, but that's actually their own problem. If their mail gets
rejected, tough luck.<BR>> <BR>> <BR>>> 2. <A href="http://corp.gd";
target=_blank>corp.gd</A> is a legitimate domain name owned by someone else
than than Godaddy.<BR>>> <BR>>> Domain Name:
<A href="http://corp.gd";
target=_blank>corp.gd</A><BR>>> <BR>>> Registrant, Technical
Contact, Billing Contact, Admin. Contact<BR>>> SRA,
MII<BR>>> Private Registration, b-dul Unirii 80, Bacau,
, , , <BR>>> <A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ramsmith59@xxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>ramsmith59@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>>
<BR>>> Romania<BR>>> E-mail:
<BR>>> <A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=domainmailfwd@xxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>domainmailfwd@xxxxxxxxx</A><BR>>>
<BR>>> Phone:
1.44.7833722420<BR>>> Fax:
1.40.72729289<BR>>> <BR>>> Resource Records
(2):<BR>>>
ns <A
href="http://ns1.register.com"; target=_blank>ns1.register.com</A>
<BR>>>
ns <A
href="http://ns2.register.com"; target=_blank>ns2.register.com</A>
<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>>> One wonders how a major
ICANN approved registrar can make such basic technical errors, and leave them
in place for YEARS?<BR>>> <BR>>>
<BR>>> <BR>>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> One
possibility is that they have contracted a mailing service from a company (<A
href="http://corp.gd"; target=_blank>corp.gd</A>), which happens to be Godaddy
client for a conectivity package, in Godaddys own ip netblock.<BR>> <BR>>
<BR>> R's,<BR>> <BR>> Hugo Monteiro.<BR>> -- <BR>> fct.unl.pt:~#
cat .signature<BR>> <BR>> Hugo Monteiro<BR>>
Email : <BR>> <A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>hugo.monteiro@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> <BR>> Telefone : +351
212948300 Ext.15307<BR>> Web : <BR>> <A
href="http://hmonteiro.net/"; target=_blank>http://hmonteiro.net</A><BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Divisão de Informática<BR>> Faculdade de Ciências e
Tecnologia da<BR>>
Universidade Nova de Lisboa<BR>> Quinta da
Torre 2829-516 Caparica Portugal<BR>>
Telefone: +351 212948596 Fax: +351 212948548<BR>> <BR>>
<A href="http://www.fct.unl.pt"; target=_blank>www.fct.unl.pt</A>
<A
href="http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=apoio@xxxxxxxxxx";
target=_blank>apoio@xxxxxxxxxx</A><BR>> <BR>> <BR>> fct.unl.pt:~#
_<BR>> <BR>>
<BR><BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
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<P>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over
294k members/stakeholders and growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the
greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go
with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of
glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury,
L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L
multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v.
Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR></P>
<P>Regards,<BR><BR>Jeffrey A. Williams<BR>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over
294k members/stakeholders and growing, strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the
greatest freedom" -<BR> Abraham Lincoln<BR><BR>"Credit should go
with the performance of duty and not with what is very<BR>often the accident of
glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the probability be called P; the injury,
L; and the burden, B; liability<BR>depends upon whether B is less than L
multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>United States v.
Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of<BR>Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>Phone:
214-244-4827<BR></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>
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