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RE: [ga] All of Vietnam's Government Computers To Use Linux, By Fiat

  • To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [ga] All of Vietnam's Government Computers To Use Linux, By Fiat
  • From: "Karl E. Peters" <tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:06:09 -0700

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font-size:10pt;"><div>Not at all clear Jeffrey, no offense, but there was 
nothing in your writing or in the referenced article that <U>did not</U> 
revolve around the use of Linux and other open source software on government 
servers. Perhaps you should clarify a bit...&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -Karl E. 
Peters</div>
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<div   >-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [ga] All of 
Vietnam's Government Computers To Use Linux,<BR>By Fiat<BR>From: "Jeffrey A. 
Williams" &lt;jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Date: Wed, January 07, 2009 9:12 
pm<BR>To: "Karl E. Peters" &lt;tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>Cc: ICANN SSAC 
&lt;ssac@xxxxxxxxx&gt;, Nguyen Thu Hue &lt;huenguyen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;,<BR>GAC Rep 
&lt;ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, DOC/NTIA ICANN 
Rep<BR>&lt;aheineman@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, Ga &lt;ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR><BR>Karl 
and all,<BR><BR>I nor any of our members have any problem with the "Linux" 
part<BR>of the announcment. I thought I made that clear?<BR><BR>"Karl E. 
Peters" wrote:<BR><BR>&gt; Jeffrey and others,<BR>&gt; I would respectfully 
disagree on the impact of the decision to<BR>&gt; mandate government computers 
use Linux. MS is moving toward a<BR>&gt; situation where you can not own your 
software but must perpetually<BR>&gt; lease, thus making one forever dependent 
on good relations with MS<BR>&gt; (and LOTs of money!) to keep ones computers 
operating smoothly. The<BR>&gt; backdoors they leave so they can police their 
licenses are a<BR>&gt; playground for malicious hackers that one rarely, if 
ever, experiences<BR>&gt; with Linux. Linux and the associated applications 
have come a long way<BR>&gt; in interoperability with the MS world and the GUI 
of Ubuntu (My<BR>&gt; favroite flavor of Linux) is very easy and familiar to 
navigate for<BR>&gt; Windows graduates. Finally, the hardware required to run a 
full-blown<BR>&gt; Linux world is far less demanding than to run the very 
bloated and<BR>&gt; resource-hogging new MS systems, especially the new "Vista" 
that even<BR>&gt; MS is trying to distance themselves from in some 
respects.<BR>&gt; In an age where the US is finally learning that pouring lots 
of<BR>&gt; needless money out for resources we have at home more cheaply, 
we<BR>&gt; should not criticize Vietnam for stopping the software 
expense<BR>&gt; bleeding of money outside when there is a well-maintained and 
free OS<BR>&gt; beckoning them that makes it nearly painless to switch 
over.<BR>&gt; Personally, I had become addicted to the GUI of Windows for 
lack<BR>&gt; of real programming skills and being a rather lousy typist, but 
when<BR>&gt; working on some projects for Africa and seeking out 
cheaper<BR>&gt; alternatives for use there, I was shown Ubuntu and NOW, even my 
kids,<BR>&gt; who love games, want to switch their fancy media laptop from 
Vista to<BR>&gt; Ubuntu. I still use both systems and am making the switch 
slowly in<BR>&gt; the last few months, but there is no evident reason why a 
capable user<BR>&gt; of Ubuntu could not compete in a MS world and eventually 
win it over!<BR>&gt; I wish the US government would try to save a little money 
that way!!!<BR>&gt; -Karl E. Peters, President<BR>&gt; Top-Level Domain 
Association, Inc.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; -------- Original Message 
--------<BR>&gt; Subject: [ga] All of Vietnam's Government Computers To 
Use<BR>&gt; Linux, By<BR>&gt; Fiat<BR>&gt; From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" 
&lt;jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; Date: Wed, January 07, 2009 2:24 
am<BR>&gt; To: Ga &lt;ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt; Cc: ICANN SSAC 
&lt;ssac@xxxxxxxxx&gt;, Nguyen Thu Hue<BR>&gt; 
&lt;huenguyen@xxxxxxxxx&gt;,<BR>&gt; GAC Rep &lt;ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, 
DOC/NTIA ICANN Rep<BR>&gt; 
&lt;aheineman@xxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; All,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; How 
Orwellion! So much for Net Nutrality here. &gt;:( Given<BR>&gt; the recent 
security holes in Firefox as well, it seems that<BR>&gt; such<BR>&gt; a 
dictatorial decision by the Ministry of Information and<BR>&gt; Communication 
in Vietnam is a foolish one as well. Perhaps<BR>&gt; Eric can pursuade them to 
rethink this decision lest Vietnam<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; wishes to see a stark 
reduction in ecommerce and find<BR>&gt; themselves<BR>&gt; de-routed or 
filtered in accordance with the recent FCC<BR>&gt; ruling, 
accordingly...<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; See:<BR>&gt; The Vietnamese Ministry of 
Information and Communications<BR>&gt; has issued<BR>&gt; an administrative 
ruling<BR>&gt; <a href="http://english.vietnamnet.vn/tech/2009/01/822425/"; 
target=_blank 
mce_href="http://english.vietnamnet.vn/tech/2009/01/822425/";>http://english.vietnamnet.vn/tech/2009/01/822425/</a><BR>&gt;
 increasing the use of Free Open Source Software products at<BR>&gt; 
state<BR>&gt; agencies, increasing the software's use both in the back<BR>&gt; 
office and on<BR>&gt; the desktop.<BR>&gt; According to the new rule, 100% of 
government servers must<BR>&gt; run Linux by<BR>&gt; June 30, 2009, and 70% of 
agencies must use OpenOffice.org,<BR>&gt; Mozilla<BR>&gt; Firefox, and Mozilla 
Thunderbird by the end of 2009. The<BR>&gt; regulation also<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
sets benchmarks for training and proficiency in the<BR>&gt; software. 
Vietnam<BR>&gt; has a population of 86 million, 4 million larger than 
that<BR>&gt; of Germany,<BR>&gt; and is one of<BR>&gt; the world's 
fastest-growing economies.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Regards,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Spokesman 
for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k<BR>&gt; members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>&gt; 
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -<BR>&gt; Abraham 
Lincoln<BR>&gt; "YES WE CAN!" Barack ( Berry ) Obama<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "Credit 
should go with the performance of duty and not with<BR>&gt; what is<BR>&gt; 
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; "If the 
probability be called P; the injury, L; and the<BR>&gt; burden, B;<BR>&gt; 
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied<BR>&gt; by<BR>&gt; 
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."<BR>&gt; United States v. Carroll Towing 
(159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
===============================================================<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
Updated 1/26/04<BR>&gt; CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network 
data<BR>&gt; security IDNS.<BR>&gt; div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. 
INC.<BR>&gt; ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail<BR>&gt; 
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>&gt; My Phone: 
214-244-4827<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Spokesman for INEGroup 
LLA. - (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)<BR>"Obedience of the law is the 
greatest freedom" -<BR>Abraham Lincoln<BR>"YES WE CAN!" Barack ( Berry ) 
Obama<BR><BR>"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what 
is<BR>very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt<BR><BR>"If the 
probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;<BR>liability depends 
upon whether B is less than L multiplied by<BR>P: i.e., whether B is less than 
PL."<BR>United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 
1947]<BR>===============================================================<BR>Updated
 1/26/04<BR>CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security 
IDNS.<BR>div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.<BR>ABA member in good 
standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail<BR>jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<BR>My Phone: 
214-244-4827<BR><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></span></body></html>



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