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[ga] Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Where is the promised ComprehensiveReview of ICANN Accreditation Processes?

  • To: At-Large Worldwide <at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Kieren McCarthy <kieren.mccarthy@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: [ga] Re: [At-Large] [NA-Discuss] Where is the promised ComprehensiveReview of ICANN Accreditation Processes?
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:33:45 -0700

Danny and all,

  I second this request.  Please publish ALL of these applications
on the ICANN web site in a very obvious place.

  I also call on others to support Danny here...

Danny Younger wrote:

> Eduardo,
>
> Every ICANN-accredited registrar is required to complete the Shared Registry 
> System Registrar Accreditation Application -- see 
> http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/accreditation-application.htm
>
> This document requires the applicant to disclose certain details such as 
> "business address of the entity applicant".
>
> ICANN has stated "ICANN intends to conduct registrar accreditation in as open 
> and transparent a manner as feasible. To that end, ICANN will be free to 
> disclose and use information submitted in connection with an application in 
> any manner and to anyone it deems appropriate" -- see 
> http://www.icann.org/en/registrars/instructions.htm
>
> Apparently, ICANN has not deemed it appropriate to disclose accurate 
> registrar contact details to the general public (otherwise, all of these 
> applications would have been publicly posted which is what one would expect 
> if ICANN actually were a transparent organization).
>
> However, we have the right under the ICANN Accountability & Transparency 
> Frameworks and Principles document (approved by the ICANN Board in New Delhi) 
> to request unpublished information:
>
> "If a member of the public requests information not already publicly 
> available, ICANN will respond, to the extent feasible, to reasonable requests 
> within 30 calendar days of receipt of the request. If that time
> frame will not be met, ICANN will inform the requester in writing as to when 
> a response will be provided, setting forth the reasons necessary for the 
> extension of time to respond. If ICANN denies the information request, it 
> will provide a written statement to the requestor identifying the reasons for 
> the denial."
>
> If members of the NARALO agree, we can invoke our right to ask for the 
> publication of these registrar accreditation applications.  I wouldn't mind 
> taking this topic up at our next monthly meeting...
>
> Danny
>
> --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Eduardo Diaz <ediaz@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: Eduardo Diaz <ediaz@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: RE: [NA-Discuss] Where is the promised Comprehensive Review of 
> > ICANN Accreditation Processes?
> > To: dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx, at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 5:00 PM
> > There should be complete transparency in this, otherwise it
> > gives the
> > impression that these registrars are doing something
> > illegal.
> >
> >
> >
> > So which committee/organization do we approach to start
> > discussing and
> > change this?
> >
> >
> >
> > Eduardo Diaz
> >
> > ISOC-PR
> >
> >
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: na-discuss-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:na-discuss-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf Of Danny
> > Younger
> > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 9:03 AM
> > To: at-large@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc: na-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [NA-Discuss] Where is the promised Comprehensive
> > Review of ICANN
> > Accreditation Processes?
> >
> >
> >
> > Source:  http://www.knujon.com/news.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Phantom Registrars
> >
> >
> >
> > In investigating the 48 Directi-owned Registrars with
> > questionable
> > locations, we reported facts. The address used by many of
> > these Registrars:
> > "14525 SW Millikan Way Beaverton, OR 97005-2343"
> > is the address of a mail
> > forwarding service called Earthclassmail. According to
> > Directi, the listed
> > companies are registered in Delaware, but not in Oregon or
> > New York as
> > listed in the ICANN Directory. Directi is headquartered in
> > Mumbai, India.
> > KnujOn feels that any company given so much responsibility
> > over the Internet
> > should fully disclose where they are located, but this is
> > apparently not an
> > ICANN requirement.
> >
> >
> >
> > Indeed, Stacy Burnette, director of contractual compliance
> > at ICANN, said
> > the organization is satisfied the registrars are
> > incorporated in the
> > location listed in their application. Telephone numbers in
> > the contact
> > information need not correspond to the location of
> > incorporation, she said.
> > ICANN doesn't require registrars to publicly disclose
> > their place of
> > incorporation.
> >
> >
> >
> > To which KnujOn says: Huh? So, as the expression goes,
> > don't hate the player
> > hate the game. Directi merely acquired these accreditations
> > by ICANN's own
> > rules. Summary: One address in the application, a second
> > address disclosed
> > to the public. Read this line again: "ICANN
> > doesn't require registrars to
> > publicly disclose their place of incorporation." How
> > does this figure into
> > ICANN's mission to be an open and transparent
> > organization? "Telephone
> > numbers in the contact information need not correspond to
> > the location of
> > incorporation". How can there be any accountability?
> > This situation is
> > upside-down. Registrants are required to list their valid
> > contact
> > information, but the Registrars who sponsor their domains
> > are not.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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