[ga] FYI: TLDA-Public Re: TLD-WG ICANN to vote on Mass Theft of TLDs from INS TLD Holders

["Joe Baptista" <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Subject: TLDA-Public Re: TLD-WG ICANN to vote on Mass Theft of TLDs from INS
TLD Holders
To: tld-wg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, public@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


I don't quite understand why we are calling it theft right now.  Clearly
this has a lot of potential to be another technical fiasco if not looming
legal quagmire.  But ICANN I think is trying a very difficult experiment in
being what it was always intended to be.  A public resource.  And
incidentally the same approach was being considered for INAIC.  I was
present at an INAIC council meeting held in Amsterdam dealing with this.
The same people who were in on the action then are in on the action now via
ICANN - I'm speaking of Milton Muler and that law professor from Miami.

We were in the process back in 2005 of contracting the Muler clan to INAIC
to develop the necessary policy framework to do what ICANN is doing now.  Of
course that all went poof when I blew the whistle on the insider trading
going on there.  Non the less the European experiment we now call HEX
(Herman EXperiment) or Herman-ex proved conclusively that internet commerce
demanded TLDs and HEX was in an excellent position to replace ICANN as the
primary public root back then.  We had the momentum before I blew the
whistle.

This did not happen - thank god - because I blew my whistle.  After all I
would never sanction a project that would of simply replaced one set of
sophisticated crooks, ICANN, with another set of less sophisticated crooks -
the HEX or collectively, INAIC, UnifiedRoot, UNIDT et al.

Now we should NOT be surprised by ICANNs action.  HEX pretty much blasted
the ICANN midships.  Vint Cerf got the boot and now we have Peter Dengate
Thrush as Chair.  Anyone who knows the history of the names involved here
know Thrush is BWG - boston working group.  You remember them - the Richard
Sexton clan.  So the appointment of Thrush as ICANN chair signals a
significant changing of the guard at ICANN.

You might say ICANN is in the middle of a friendly BWG takeover battle with
the consent and blessing of the DOC.  But there is a lot of decent at ICANN
over what is happening.  In any case they are willing to listen - or have
made the appropriate noises - there have been two meetings thus far of
ICANNers and staff on the subject this past April 11 and 17.

I think this is an honest effort on ICANNs - with a lot of opposition from
the registries and those with an interest in the ICANN money machine - and
for all I know it may crash terribly before it gets anywhere.  But I don't
think you are in any position to call them crooks.

The crooks are the people your involved with over in Europe who have sold
TLDs they had no rights to sell, and have provided sub standard service - in
the case of INAIC a root at the end of a DSL pipe - and in the case of
Unifiedroot - no root at all of any technical significance.

What protections are there for the TLD holders who have been hoodwinked into
buying a Newroot, INAIC or Unifiedroot TLD allocation.  Will they be
protected and defended at ICANN?  And how will an ICANN review go when we
all know they are crooks and can't run a root.  Thats not going to look good
before an ICANN review panel.

Its a good thing I got the TLDA back together.  At least these TLD holders
will have complaint systems - even crooks have to be compliant - questions
is - how many TLD holders will want to stay with the crooks?  I left - but
you stayed behind John.

I also find it a bit offensive that you are calling ICANNs actions theft.
Only those without guilt may cast the stone.  Go to the mirror John and look
yourself in the eye.  The man you are staring at is the same one who high
jacked the TLDA domain names - TLDA.org and TLDA.net.  So I don't think you
are in a moral position here to cast judgment on ICANN.

Also you know whats happening here at the TLDA.  The fraud your pals have
perpetuated in Europe is being fixed.  You also know the TLDA now has
unrestricted access to the Public Root Archives - which show just how much
fraud has been perpetuated by the fraudsters at HEX.  These archives will
are instrumental in fixing name space.  And you know it has not been easy -
what with all the bogus registrations at INAIC and Unifiedroot.  Ooops -
almost forgot - you too have tried to pass of the .BAX TLD as real - even
though no one is able to verify the administrator - and the administrator
his behind a yahoo address.

Its this sort of crap we are left to clean up.

Remember John - the ICANN move may be a legal quagmire - but the INAIC /
Unifiedroot HEX is in fact a legal scam of significant proportions.  In the
end I say to you that the only people who need protecting are the TLD
holders who purchased their TLDs from the HEX.  And we are doing that.
ICANN we should watch but at this point I don't see the ICANN move as being
significant.  They are testing the waters.

cheers
joe baptista


On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Palmer, John <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> It appears that ICANN is getting ready to vote on a proposal that will
> allow wholesale theft of TLDs from the
> Inclusive Namespace. As I understand the proposals, ICANN will relax its
> rules on creating new TLDs in
> the ICANN root and will basically auction off TLD strings to the highest
> bidder
>
> Translation: The intend to steal the business products of thousands of TLD
> holders and sell them to others.
>
> Why isn't this being discussed more that it is? Joe - Now would be the time
> for you to raise your voice to defend
> those TLD holders that you represent.
>
> John
>



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