[dow1tf] Whis task force 1 notes/minutes January 27,2004

["GNSO SECRETARIAT" <gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Please find the miutes of the Whois task force 1 teleconference held on
January 27.

If you would like any changes made, please ket me know.

Thank you,

Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat

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<p align="center"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>WHOIS Task Force 
  1 Teleconference January 27, 2004 - Minutes</b></font></p>
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">ATTENDEES:<br>
  </font></b></p>
<p><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">GNSO Constituency representatives:<br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">gTLD Registries constituency: 
  - Jeff</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Neuman</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> 
  - </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Chair</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Commercial and Business 
  Users constituency - David Fares <br>
  Commercial and Business Users constituency - Marilyn Cade </font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Intellectual Property Interests 
  Constituency - John Wolfe<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  <b>Liaisons:</b><br>
  At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) liaisons - Wendy Seltzer and Thomas Roessler<br>
  <b>ICANN Staff Manager</b>: Barbara Roseman<br>
  <b>GNSO Secretariat:</b> Glen de Saint G&eacute;ry <br>
  <br>
  <b>Absent:<br>
  </b></font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Intellectual Property Interests 
  Constituency - Jeremy Banks</font> <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">(alternate)</font><br>
  <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">gTLD Registries constituency </font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">- 
  </font></b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">David Maher</font><b><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></font></b> 
  <br>
  <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Internet Service and Connectivity 
  Providers constituency: - Antonio Harris</font><br>
  <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Registrars Constituency - Paul Stahura<br>
  Non Commercial Users Constituency - Milton Mueller</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Wendy Seltzer</b> proposed sending 
  additional non marketing contacts.<br>
  <b>Jeff Neuman </b>and <b>Barbara Roseman </b>proposed to work together on the 
  covering letter for the survey.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  <b>Survey questionnaire commented on during meeting:</b></font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Questions 1) ICANN-Accredited Registrars 
  and gTLD Registries make Whois information available through multiple query-based 
  mechanisms, including web-based interfaces and a special network protocol informally 
  referred to as "port-43 Whois." <br>
  How do you obtain the Whois information?<br>
  a. By submitting queries to a Web-based interface <br>
  b. By submitting queries using special tools, e.g., using port-43-based interface<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">c. By entering into bulk access 
  licenses with ICANN- accredited registrars. <br>
  d. By obtaining WHOIS data in bulk from an entity that is not an ICANN-Accredited 
  Registrar. Please specify the type of entity. <br>
  e. Other (Please explain) <br>
  f. I don't know.<br>
  <br>
  2) Are you getting this information directly from an ICANN-Accredited Registrar 
  [Provide a link] or gTLD Registry [Provide a link]? <br>
  a. Yes <br>
  b. No. <br>
  c. I don't know <br>
  <br>
  3) Do you routinely disseminate the obtained Whois information to third parties 
  (Yes/No/don't know)? <br>
  3.1) If yes, do you disseminate:<br>
  3.2) a. individual WHOIS records <br>
  b. WHOIS records in bulk <br>
  c. Other (please explain) <br>
  d. Don't know<br>
  3.2) If you answered yes to Number 3, how do you disseminate the obtained Whois 
  information? <br>
  a) I operate a WHOIS proxy that is available through port 43 <br>
  b) I operate a WHOIS proxy that is accessible through a web interface <br>
  c) Other (please specify) d) Don't know <br>
  <br>
  4) Approximately how many Whois queries/lookups do you perform on average per 
  day? <br>
  a. Less than 10<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> b. 10-99 <br>
  c. 100-1000 <br>
  d. More than 1000 <br>
  e. It varies too much to select the other options: some days it is many (say, 
  over 1000) and some days none <br>
  f. I don't know <br>
  <br>
  5) Do you store the Whois information? <br>
  a. Not at all <br>
  b. I cache queries for a short period (less than a week) <br>
  c. I store it for longer periods such as more than a week <br>
  <br>
  6) Please indicate the general purposes of your use of Whois data (you may select 
  more than one item - choose as many that apply) <br>
  a. For law enforcement by public authorities <br>
  b. For intellectual property enforcement by trademark/copyright holders or their 
  designated representatives <br>
  c. For development of commercial products or services that facilitate law enforcement 
  by public authorities. <br>
  d. For development of commercial products or services that facilitate intellectual 
  property enforcement <br>
  e. For marketing purposes <br>
  f. For inter-registrar domain name transfers <br>
  g. To facilitate spam prevention <br>
  h. To operate a public information service <br>
  i. Statistical research on domain name registrations, Internet users, etc.<br>
  j. For resale of Whois information as an information service<br>
  k. Other: ___________________________________ <br>
  <br>
  7) Please provide a brief justification of your use, if any, of query-based 
  Whois services. <br>
  <br>
  8) If you currently use Port 43 to access WHOIS information, and such access 
  were not available in the future, would you be able to use any other source 
  for such data? <br>
  a) If so, please explain the source? <br>
  b) If so, what do you believe will be the effect on you or your organization 
  of using such alternate source? <br>
  c) If not, why? <br>
  <br>
  9) What is the most important factor driving your access to Whois data as you 
  currently use it? your access to WHOIS data. (Although each answer may be applicable 
  to you or your organization, please select only the most relevant answer below):<br>
  a) the cost <br>
  b) the convenience or need for immediate online access to contact information 
  <br>
  c) no other way to get the needed data <br>
  d) other.<br>
  Please explain your answer. <br>
  <br>
  In order to ensure that your responses are considered by the Task Force, please 
  respond to this questionnaire by no later than February 10, 2004. <br>
  Thank you very much for your time and participation. <br>
  For our complete description of work, please see<br>
  http://gnso.icann.org/issues/whois-privacy/tor.shtml. <br>
  Regards, ICANN Whois Taskforce 1 <br>
  For more information, please contact the Whois Task Force 1 Chair, Jeffrey J. 
  Neuman (Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx) or the ICANN Staff Manager, Barbara Roseman 
  (Roseman@xxxxxxxxx) </font><br>
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  <font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
  <b>David Fares</b> commented as follows on the survey</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> <b>Question 7</b> --discussed the 
  word "justification" in the context of question 9 but believed the same arguments 
  relating to its use apply to question 7 and proposed not using it. <br>
  <b>Question 8. </b>If you currently use Port 43 to access WHOIS information, 
  and such access were not available in the future, would you be able to use any 
  other source for such data?<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">a) If so, please explain the 
  source?<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">b) If so, what do you believe 
  will be the effect on you or your organization of using such alternate source? 
  <br>
  c) If not, why? <br>
  <br>
  In response to Milton's concern, it was proposed asking what other sources they 
  would use and include a none of the above response.<br>
  Proposed wording:<br>
  What other sources would you use for such data?<br>
  Eliminate a) and c)</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Question 9, concerns were expressed 
  about deleting option (c) as proposed by Milton Mueller. Respondents were asked 
  to explain their answer so if they choose option c., it was hoped to solicit 
  a rationale which would help understand the views of whois data users.<br>
  New wording and new question 9 proposed:</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">If you were to use such alternate 
  sources what do you believe would be the effect on you or your organization. 
  <br>
  </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">David Fares continued commenting 
  on the Introductory Paragraph 2, last sentence and proposed a redraft as follows: 
  "The GNSO's role is to help to promote the development of recommendations related 
  to the management of gTLDs domain name policy and encourage . . <br>
  <br>
  Barbara Roseman suggested categorizing respondents and Jeff Neuman suggested 
  leaving the categories to the end when the data was collected.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">A new paragraph at the end was suggested, 
  reading as follows:<br>
  Please take a moment to tell us a little bit about your organization to assist 
  us in understanding and organizing the results.</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Discussion followed on:</font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The return address: tf1-survey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  would be included in the document<br>
  Barbara Roseman suggested changing the return date to February 16<br>
  Thoughts were solicited on how the respondents would be described? </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The format used should be regular 
  simple text in the emails.<br>
  Jeff Neuman and Barbara Roseman would consult together on the best way to send 
  out the survey.<br>
  All task force members, except for the non commercial and the registrars were 
  present at the meeting so Jeff proposed </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">sending 
  final copy of the questionnaire to Milton and Paul for approval before it went 
  out the public.<br>
  <br>
  Next Meeting: February 3, Needs and juqstification chart;<br>
  </font><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> </font></p>
<p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b>Jeff Neuman thanked everyone for 
  their presence and participation and ended the call at 16:30 UTC.<br>
  <br>
  </b> <b>Next call: Tuesday 3 February 2004, </b> <b>16:00 UTC, 11:00 EST, 8:00 
  Los Angeles, 17:00 CET.<br>
  <br>
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  </b></font></p>
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