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Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58


Dear Donna,
I´m aware of the background and the great design work based on past experience.
But I just have to say that the new meeting meeting ‘strategy’ was largely designed to pelase everybody and before we could measure the impact of the new empowered community CCWGs, overlapping AoC reviews, and 1000+ new gTLDs and GDD exclusive gatherings, which require an increasing number of small meetings along the year at great cost and expense.
Having said that, I must confess that Helsinki was a great surprise in “policy-efficiency” and reduced non-sense I would like to emulate as far as possible. Looking forward, we should take the best of the new meetings format (and forget such ones as Hyderabad). Nobody said we can keep improving. 

Lets hope for an ICANN58 where we can work effectively.

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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On 29 Nov 2016, at 12:32, Austin, Donna wrote:


Hi Carlos
While your suggestion makes perfect sense the reality is that the smaller meeting B, ie Policy Meetings, were designed to enable ICANN to host meetings in locations predominately in the African and LAC regions that can no longer host the larger ICANN meetings.
Prior to the establishment of the Meeting Strategy Working Group (MSWG), Nick Tomasso published a proposal suggesting that hub locations be used, although Nick called them Consolidated Meeting Locations, and adjusted the rotation through regions. Nick's proposal was rejected and the MSWG was established.
Nick's proposal is available at: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/meetings-proposal-02oct12-en.pdf
The MSWG also discussed the idea of hubs as well but agreed to continue regional rotation. 

Donna

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Subject: Re: [council] Preliminary planning for ICANN58


Thank you James.
But here we are working on the 2nd derivative: ICANN hubs for Policy
(short) Meetings.
Don´t know if this was also discarded.

Cheers

Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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Skype: carlos.raulg
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On 28 Nov 2016, at 20:34, James M. Bladel wrote:


Just a note that the Meeting Strategy Working Group examined the idea
of “rotating hubs”, and rejected them. Mostly by folks from smaller 
and/or more distant locations who were concerned that ICANN would be
permanently absent from their region.

I don’t agree, but that was their finding.

Thanks –

J.

On 11/28/16, 11:59 , "Michele Neylon - Blacknight"
<michele@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    Carlos

    Ah ok, so the ICANN hubs.
    That makes a lot of sense from a cost and logistics perspective.

    Regards

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    On 28/11/2016, 11:33, "Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez G."
<crg@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        ICANN hubs: LA, Istambul and Singapore.

        I assume that those places are central located in terms of
airlines
        logistics, already have a minimum of ICANN staff available,
facilites,
        etc. and would greatly reduce the cost to set up meetings (A
recent
        meeting of the CCT-RT in Washington DC had to fly in as many
ICANN staff
        members as RT members, which calls for more reasonable places
to meet,
particularly for mainle “working” meetings like the Policy 
Format
        calls for).

        Cheers

        Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez
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        On 26 Nov 2016, at 10:14, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:

        > Carlos
        >
        > Which locations would you see as being “hubs”?
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        > Regards
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