Re: [council] IGO/RC motion

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Hi,

I think that it would be good to understand the Board's view on this and
am glad Chris is joining the meeting.

At this point I can't support this group of amendments to our previous
PDP recommendations.  NCSG support for the recommendations itself was
tentative and was largely based on the WG having done due diligence and
based on the inclusion of NCSG opposition stmts in the report.  As these
motions take us further into granting special privilege/protection
to IGOs that were already difficult for the NCSG to accept, support is
sparse for extras in the SG.  Beyond that we had a very specific
condition on extra privileges/protections for IGOs and that was a
matching treatment for INGOs, which the WG by and large accepted.  These
motions do not include any notion of equivalent treatment for INGOs.

Is there any chance of separating the RCRC amendments from the IGO
amendments?  While the feeling on IGO special privilege and protections
is fairly consistent in the NCSG, though we have a meeting soon to
discuss it further, there is a more mixed NCSG reaction over what might
be acceptable special privilege/protection for the RCRC and the national
societies.
Personally I could see supporting the RCRC amendments, though not the
IGO amendments - though as I say NCSG have yet to meet on this issue and
I may yet be convinced otherwise.

Finally I add that following all the clarifications we have received on
this procedure, it is my intention to only vote in favor of an amendment
that I would still be able to vote for if/when the reconstituted-WG were
to say yes to it.  I also feel that for any amendment I personally voted
in favor of in council, I would need to be able to argue for it, at
least initially, in my SG and in a reconstituted-WG.

I realize that not everyone is interpreting the procedure in this way.
I would add that I think this procedure could benefit from analysis by
the SCI after this particlar event has resolved itself.

thanks

avri


On 19-Jul-14 14:59, Thomas Rickert wrote:
> 
> All, in the light of the discussions on the list, I have asked Chris 
> Disspain to join the upcoming Council call and he accepted the 
> invitation.
> 
> I am sure that this will help us understand better what the NGPC's 
> thinking is so we can take this into account when discussing the 
> motion. I suggest to get back to the amendments that were proposed 
> once we have heard Chris.
> 
> Thanks, Thomas
> 
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>> Am 17.07.2014 um 11:37 schrieb Volker Greimann 
>> <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
>> 
>> 
>> I support the suggestions James made.
>> 
>> V.
>> 
>> Am 16.07.2014 19:14, schrieb James M. Bladel:
>>> Some other thoughts:
>>> 
>>> First ³Resolved² clause:  Are we, in fact, re-convening the PDP 
>>> WG?  I thought the goal was to reconvene volunteers that had 
>>> previous served on the PDP WG to form a consultative WG to 
>>> consider the amendments. Also, I don¹t know if the Council
>>> should re-confirm Thomas, rather let the WG decide if he should
>>> be reconfirmed, or if they even need a permanent chair for this 
>>> short-term effort.
>>> 
>>> Proposed (friendly?) amendment: ³The GNSO Council hereby calls 
>>> for volunteers that have previously served in the IGO/NGO PDP WG 
>>> to reconvene as a [Review Team], and establishes the previous 
>>> Chair (Thomas Rickert) as Interim Chair."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Second ³Resolved² Clause:  Whatever we end up calling this
>>> group, it should flow through the subsequent clauses. Proposed 
>>> (friendly?) amendment: ³The GNSO requests the reconvened [Review 
>>> Team] to considerŠ.²
>>> 
>>> Third ³Resolved² Clause:  45 days is a tight deadline, should we 
>>> allow the new group to report back if it needs more time? 
>>> Proposed (friendly?) amendment: ³The GNSO Council requests that 
>>> the [Review Team] provide the Council with its recommendations
>>> in relation to the proposed amendment/modification within
>>> forty-five (45) days of reconvening the group, or report back to
>>> the Council prior to the end of this period with an updated time
>>> frame for completion of its work.²
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks‹
>>> 
>>> 
>>> J.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/14/14, 13:53 , "Thomas Rickert" <rickert@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> All, I herewith submit the attached motion as discussed during 
>>>> the London meeting. I am sure we will continue the
>>>> conversation in the light of the latest developments.
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards, Thomas
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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