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RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures

  • To: "'jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx'" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Zahid Jamil'" <zahid@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Volker Greimann'" <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
  • From: "Novoa, Osvaldo" <onovoa@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:39:40 -0300
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  • Thread-topic: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures

All,
I'll go with Jonathan's option 2, since we are all in different time zones it 
wouldn't matter that the deadline changes for every meeting, as long as it is 
made clear in every occasion.  But I'll go with the majority position.
If option 1 is chosen I think that the fixed time-zone should be UTC.
Best regards,
Osvaldo

-----Mensaje original-----
De: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] En 
nombre de Jonathan Robinson
Enviado el: Lunes, 29 de Abril de 2013 10:31
Para: 'Zahid Jamil'; 'Volker Greimann'
CC: 'Wendy Seltzer'; 'Marika Konings'; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Asunto: RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures


All,

I'd like to close this off and move to posting it for public comment.

My understanding is that we are agreed on 10 calendar days as this is global
and meets what was originally intended.

As far as a time-zone is concerned, we have two options:

1. Choose a fixed time zone in which the 23h59 cut-off occurs.  There is no
universally fair time zone to use for a global audience but UTC seems as
close to a standard as we have.
PST provides for a later sunset but is arguably less of a standard than UTC.

OR

2. Agree that the cut-off is 10 calendar days (exactly) before the meeting
occurs.  This will mean that the time of the cut-off varies on a per meeting
basis.
This is probably most fair but could lead to confusion since it varies on a
per meeting basis.
Still, as long as the cut-off time is sent as part of the reminder in
calling for motions, it seems reasonable.

Any comments or inputs, please provide them ASAP before we move to public
comment.

Thanks,


Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
Sent: 23 April 2013 14:47
To: Volker Greimann
Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Wendy Seltzer; Marika Konings;
<council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures


How about using 23:59 PST as the deadline?



Best regards,

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On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:45, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> While I support this in general, I am not sure we really need such a
policy. The proposed language cuts the time available for bringing motions
short for our American councillors compared to right now.
>
> Volker
>
>> I support Wendy's language.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Zahid Jamil
>> Barrister-at-law
>> Jamil & Jamil
>> Barristers-at-law
>> 219-221 Central Hotel Annexe
>> Merewether Road, Karachi. Pakistan
>> Cell: +923008238230
>> Tel: +92 21 35680760 / 35685276 / 35655025
>> Fax: +92 21 35655026
>> www.jamilandjamil.com
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:30, "Jonathan Robinson"
<jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I am in support of Wendy's wording (with a minor tweak) as follows:
>>>
>>> Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for
>>> inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 23:59
>>> UTC on the day, 8 calendar days before the GNSO Council meeting.
>>>
>>> Any concerns or objections, please raise ASAP otherwise I suggest we
>>> post for public comment.


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