RE: [council] Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
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- Subject: RE: [council] Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
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- Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 15:36:57 -0800
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I agree it's generally outside the scope of the council.
I do think however the idea of trying to control or eradicate content by means
of Internet intermediaries (ISPs, registrars, registries, ad service providers,
payment processors, etc.) is of interest to many of us who participate actively
in ICANN. Indeed this is part of the SOPA/PIPA bills' designs. So should that
legislation fail in the US, the community might anticipate further attention
being directed toward ICANN as a means of achieving that agenda. So we may do
well to be educated, even if there's little for us to act on as it relates to
the legislation itself.
From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue 2/7/2012 11:00 AM
To: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Stéphane Van Gelder
Subject: [council] Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
While a session on SOPA (and perhaps also PIPA, the Senate version of a similar
bill) might be helpful to the community, especially if it focuses on aspects
that would affect management, expansion and/or security of the DNS, I agree it
would seem somewhat outside the Council's scope. Question whether, as a general
topic, it is within the GNSO community's range of direct interests - and
depending on what the session covers, it might well be.
I'd suggest not adding it to the Council's agenda, but agreeing that such a
session could be of interest to individual GNSO SGs, Cs and participants.
FWIW it's not clear where either the US Senate or House of Representatives will
go with the bills. Some co-sponsors have either pulled out or have stated
publicly that much needs to be reconsidered, while at least one major sponsor
(Senator Leahy from Vermont) seems to want to keep the bills alive, with
possible modifications. There will be lots of discussions, hearings and
negotiations between now and any formal action - and it's likely the DNS
sections of the original bill will be dropped altogether or be drastically
changed - so I'm not sure how discussing a previous version of the legislation
would be entirely helpful (unless a new version of one or both bills is out in
advance sufficiently of our Costa Rica meeting to enable folks to familiarize
themselves with it).
Mary W S Wong
Professor of Law
Chair, Graduate IP Programs
Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP
UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW
Two White Street
Concord, NH 03301
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From: Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx GNSO" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 2/7/2012 11:57 AM
Subject: [council] Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA
Please find below an email chain starting with a message from the ALAC Chair.
Thanks to Wolf for keeping me honest and reminding me that I had forgotten to
copy the Council here ;)
Le 7 févr. 2012 à 16:06, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
> are you going to inform the council about Olivier's request?
> Kind regards
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Stéphane Van Gelder [mailto:stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 3. Februar 2012 11:01
> An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich
> Cc: Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx; gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx
> Betreff: Re: [gnso-chairs] AW: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
> I agree with Jeff 100%
> Le 2 févr. 2012 à 22:27, <KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>> Jeff, I personally agree - with the knowledge I have so far.
>> Nevertheless I expect different views from councillors. And I think the GNSO
>> should be prepared just in case such a forum is going to be organized in
>> Costa Rica.
>> The ccNSO chair has answered to Olivier's request in favour. I think the
>> GNSO chair should send an answer, too, based on GNSO discussions.
>> Kind regards
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx]
>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2012 22:11
>> An: Knoben, Wolf-Ulrich; gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx
>> Betreff: RE: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
>> I have been keeping quiet about this on other lists, but no I do not believe
>> this is an issue for the GNSO Council to discuss. This is a matter that
>> effects national law and would represent a complete side track during the
>> weekend from official GNSO business.
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman
>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs
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>> From: owner-gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf Of KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 4:06 PM
>> To: gnso-chairs@xxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [gnso-chairs] WG: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
>> I wonder whether the GNSO could refrain from such a forum in San José. Is
>> SOPA (and PIPA) effecting our policy work or not? I think a GNSO
>> representative should participate in such a discussion.
>> Should we put this on the GNSO weekend agenda in San José, too?
>> Maybe there is interest in discussing the item with the GAC ?!
>> Kind regards
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: owner-soac-discussion@xxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:owner-soac-discussion@xxxxxxxxx] Im Auftrag von Olivier MJ
>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 1. Februar 2012 08:27
>> An: soac-discussion@xxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff
>> Betreff: [soac-discussion] SOPA Discussions
>> Dear SO/AC Chairs,
>> a recent discussion on an ALAC call led to the question whether the ICANN
>> community might be interested in holding a session in San José, to discuss
>> the aspects of the SOPA (Stop Online Piracy Act) and how it might affect
>> ICANN policies that were reached through consensus.
>> I am writing to you all to find out of this is something which your
>> community might be interested in.
>> As we are currently finalising schedules, it would be helpful to find out
>> your community's views ASAP.
>> Warmest regards,
>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD