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RE: AW: [council] Adrian's gameplan
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- Subject: RE: AW: [council] Adrian's gameplan
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- Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 02:35:10 -0700
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<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;
font-size:10pt;"><div>I am good with
this.</div><div><br></div><div>Berard<br></div>
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Subject: Re: AW: [council] Adrian's gameplan<br>
From: <<a
href="mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Date: Sat, June 18, 2011 2:25 am<br>
To: <<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>,
<<a href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
Cc: <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>
<br>
<div>I don't have a problem with that, Wolf-Ulrich i.e. your insertion and
deleting the reference to "on behalf of our Cs and SGs". </div>
<div> </div> <div>If I may, we can also consider deleting the last part of
my draft, which means the statement will now read (with Wolf-Ulrich's suggested
changes included):</div> <div> </div> <div>"The GNSO Council wishes to
reiterate its support for the work of the Joint Applicant Support Working Group
(JAS WG). We unanimously believe that it is important for the new gTLD program
to be globally inclusive, and to have as part of the implementation plan
meaningful and workable mechanisms which will assist potential needy
applicants,<span class="358051409-18062011"><font face="Segoe UI"> inter alia
</font></span>from developing regions of the world<span
class="358051409-18062011"><font face="Segoe UI">, </font></span>participate in
the first round of the new gTLD program as fully as possible. We reiterate also
our thanks to the members of the JAS WG for all their hard work in preparing
the two Milestone Reports, and look forward to receiving its Final
Report."</div> <div><br><br> </div> <div> </div> <div>
<div><strong><font color="#800080">Mary W S Wong</font></strong></div>
<div><em>Professor of Law</em></div> <div><em>Chair, Graduate IP
Programs</em></div> <div><em>Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP</em></div>
<address>UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW</address> <address>Two White
Street</address> <address>Concord, NH 03301</address> <address>USA</address>
<address>Email: <a target="_blank"
href="mailto:mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a></address>
<address>Phone: 1-603-513-5143</address> <address>Webpage: <a target="_blank"
href="http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php";>http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php</a></address>
<address>Selected writings available on the Social Science Research
Network (SSRN) at: <a target="_blank"
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584";>http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a></address>>>>
</div> <table style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 15px; FONT-SIZE: 1em"
bgcolor="#f3f3f3" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td> <div style="BORDER-LEFT:
#050505 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 7px"> <table style="FONT: 9pt Segoe UI"
bgcolor="#f3f3f3"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td><strong>From: </strong></td>
<td><<a
href="mailto:KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx";>KnobenW@xxxxxxxxxx</a>></td></tr> <tr
valign="top"> <td><strong>To:</strong></td> <td><<a
href="mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>>, <<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>></td></tr>
<tr valign="top"> <td><strong>CC:</strong></td> <td><<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>></td></tr>
<tr valign="top"> <td><strong>Date: </strong></td> <td>6/18/2011 5:20
AM</td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td><strong>Subject: </strong></td> <td>AW:
[council] Adrian's gameplan</td></tr></tbody></table> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><span class="358051409-18062011"><font face="Segoe UI">1. See my
insertion. I think "needy applicants" is to be seen in a wider range - as
referenced in the JAS report, too.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr"
align="left"><span class="358051409-18062011"></span> </div> <div
dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="358051409-18062011"><font face="Segoe
UI">2. The term "and on behalf of all our Constituencies and Stakeholder
Groups" means (time-eating) co-ordination</font></span></div> <div> </div>
<div style="MARGIN-TOP: 0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"><font
face="arial">Kind regards<br>Wolf-Ulrich </font></div> <div style="MARGIN-TOP:
0px; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0px; FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> </div><br> <blockquote
style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <div dir="ltr" class="OutlookMessageHeader"
align="left" lang="de"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma"><b>Von:</b> <a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> [<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]
<b>Im Auftrag von </b><a
href="mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><br><b>Gesendet:</b>
Samstag, 18. Juni 2011 10:58<br><b>An:</b> <a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br><b>Cc:</b>
'GNSO Council List'<br><b>Betreff:</b> RE: [council] Adrian's
gameplan<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div>How about -</div>
<div> </div> <div>"The GNSO Council wishes to reiterate its support for
the work of the Joint Applicant Support Working Group (JAS WG). We unanimously,
and on behalf of all our Constituencies and Stakeholder Groups, believe that it
is important for the new gTLD program to be globally inclusive, and to have
as part of the implementation plan meaningful and workable
mechanisms which will assist potential needy applicants <span
class="358051409-18062011"><font face="Segoe UI">[WUK: ] - inter
alia </font></span>from developing regions of the world<span
class="358051409-18062011"><font face="Segoe UI">[WUK: ]
- </font></span> participate in the first round of the new gTLD program as
fully as possible. We reiterate also our thanks to the members of the JAS WG
for all their hard work in preparing the two Milestone Reports, and
look forward to receiving its Final Report so that recommendations for ensuring
equal access to the new gTLD program can be discussed and
implemented." </div> <div> </div> <div>I would suggest that, if
we can, a statement such as this (tweaked as necessary) be issued to the
community (including the Board and the GAC) as soon as possible :)</div>
<div> </div> <div>Cheers</div> <div>Mary<br><br></div> <div> </div>
<div> <div><strong><font color="#800080">Mary W S Wong</font></strong></div>
<div><em>Professor of Law</em></div> <div><em>Chair, Graduate IP
Programs</em></div> <div><em>Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP</em></div>
<address>UNIVERSITY OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW</address> <address>Two White
Street</address> <address>Concord, NH 03301</address> <address>USA</address>
<address>Email: <a target="_blank"
href="mailto:mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a></address>
<address>Phone: 1-603-513-5143</address> <address>Webpage: <a target="_blank"
href="http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php";>http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php</a></address>
<address>Selected writings available on the Social Science Research
Network (SSRN) at: <a target="_blank"
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584";>http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a></address>>>>
</div> <table style="MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 15px; FONT-SIZE: 1em"
bgcolor="#f3f3f3" border="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td> <div style="BORDER-LEFT:
#050505 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 7px"> <table style="FONT: 9pt Segoe UI"
bgcolor="#f3f3f3"> <tbody> <tr valign="top"> <td><strong>From: </strong></td>
<td>Rosemary Sinclair <<a
href="http://rosemary.sinclair@xxxxxxxxxxx>";>rosemary.sinclair@xxxxxxxxxxx></a>;</td></tr>
<tr valign="top"> <td><strong>To:</strong></td> <td>Adrian Kinderis <<a
href="mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>>, "<a
href="mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx";>tim@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>" <<a
href="mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx";>tim@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>>, Stéphane Van
Gelder<<a
href="http://stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>";>stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx></a>;,
"owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx" <Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx></td></tr> <tr
valign="top"> <td><strong>CC:</strong></td> <td>"'GNSO Council List'" <<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>></td></tr>
<tr valign="top"> <td><strong>Date: </strong></td> <td>6/18/2011 4:48
AM</td></tr> <tr valign="top"> <td><strong>Subject: </strong></td> <td>RE:
[council] Adrian's gameplan</td></tr></tbody></table>Or that using a CWG when
we do not have clear, agreed processes made progress on an issue where there
was common commitment to doing "something" much more difficult for the WG
members and the Council<br><br>Given that we now have a unanimous position
supporting the group's work I think Mary's original proposal was very useful as
it took the content out of play and left our ongoing discussion to focus on
process management issues....in this case implementation proposals rather than
policy proposals....<br><br>I'd support Mary's original
version<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Rosemary<br>________________________________________<br>From:
<a href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
[<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>] On
Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis [<a
href="mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]<br>Sent:
Saturday, June 18, 2011 5:48 PM<br>To: <a
href="mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx";>tim@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>; Stéphane Van Gelder; <a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>; <a
href="mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>Cc: 'GNSO
Council List'<br>Subject: RE: [council] Adrian's
gameplan<br><br>+1<br><br>Adrian Kinderis<br><br><br>From: <a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a> [<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>]
On Behalf Of <a href="mailto:tim@xxxxxxxxxxx";>tim@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>Sent:
Saturday, 18 June 2011 3:48 PM<br>To: Stéphane Van Gelder; <a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>; <a
href="mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>Cc: 'GNSO
Council List'<br>Subject: Re: [council] Adrian's gameplan<br><br>And that a cwg
or jwg may not have been the appropriate mechanism for the
issue.<br><br>Tim<br>________________________________<br>From: Stéphane Van
Gelder <<a
href="http://stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>";>stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx></a>;<br>Sender:
<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>Date:
Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:09:47 +0200<br>To: <<a
href="mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>Cc: 'GNSO
Council List'<<a
href="mailto:council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br>Subject:
Re: [council] Adrian's gameplan<br><br>Thanks Mary,<br><br>Would you be up for
drafting a proposed statement, for the Council's
consideration?<br><br>Stéphane<br><br><br><br>Le 18 juin 2011 à 09:01, <<a
href="mailto:Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<a
href="http://Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>>";>Mary.Wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>></a>; a
écrit :<br><br><br>In partial follow-up to Adrian's point about possible
deliverables and courses of action, I'd offer the suggestion I made during
today's discussion, viz., that the GNSO Council consider circulating a brief
statement to the ICANN community, stating its support for the work being done
by the JAS WG and reiterating the importance of the issues they are
considering.<br><br><br><br><br>Mary W S Wong<br>Professor of Law<br>Chair,
Graduate IP Programs<br>Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP<br>UNIVERSITY
OF NEW HAMPSHIRE SCHOOL OF LAW<br>Two White Street<br>Concord, NH
03301<br>USA<br>Email: <a
href="mailto:mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx";>mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<a
href="http://mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx>";>mary.wong@xxxxxxxxxxx></a>;<br>Phone:
1-603-513-5143<br>Webpage: <a target="_blank"
href="http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php";>http://www.law.unh.edu/marywong/index.php</a><br>Selected
writings available on the Social Science Research Network (SSRN) at: <a
target="_blank"
href="http://ssrn.com/author=437584";>http://ssrn.com/author=437584</a><br>>>><br>From:<br><br>"Andrei
Kolesnikov" <<a
href="mailto:andrei@xxxxxxxx";>andrei@xxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<a
href="http://andrei@xxxxxxxx>>";>andrei@xxxxxxxx>></a>;<br><br>To:<br><br>"'Adrian
Kinderis'" <<a
href="mailto:adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<a
href="http://adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>";>adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>></a>;,
"'GNSO Council List'" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:<a
href="http://council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>";>council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>></a>;<br><br>Date:<br><br>6/18/2011
1:13 AM<br><br>Subject:<br><br>RE: [council] Adrian's gameplan<br><br>I think
adding "set and bind to the timelines" would be beneficial. Or there will
be always a workaround for "endless discussion".<br><br>--andrei<br><br>From:
<a
href="mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a><mailto:<a
href="http://owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>";>owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx></a>;
[mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Adrian Kinderis<br>Sent:
Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:56 PM<br>To: GNSO Council List<br>Subject: [council]
Adrian's gameplan<br><br>As I discussed in the Working Session
today.<br><br>The four issues based on this discussion (as I see
them);<br><br>- Stephane
speaking directly to the
Board<br>- Katim’s email
and the issues of the JAS WG<br>o Processes within the
Council<br>- The future
of Cross Community Working Groups<br>o Publishing of reports
etc<br>- The optics of
the GNSO Council and the promotion of its internal processes and
representation<br>o Multi stakeholder make up<br>o
Differing views/ differing<br><br>It would be best, I think, to try and get
some deliverables and courses of action in order to promote
resolution.<br><br>Adrian
Kinderis<br><br><br><br></div></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></div></td></tr></tbody></table>
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