RE: [council] 2nd topic for joint Board/GNSO dinner

["Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

What if we broaden the topic some by focusing on sustaining the volunteer model 
in the long term?
 
Chuck


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        From: William Drake [mailto:william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 6:38 AM
        To: Stéphane Van Gelder
        Cc: Gomes, Chuck; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: Re: [council] 2nd topic for joint Board/GNSO dinner
        
        
        I understood Stéphane's suggestion to be for a sort of meta-reflection 
on the whole model rather than another discussion of prioritization.  Stated at 
this level of abstraction, one can imagine ways in which it could be a useful 
and illuminating dialogue but also ways in which it could be unproductive.  
Maybe it would help to specify the possible content a little more? 

        I'm inclined to think it's worth doing but would like more sense of the 
likely direction.

        Thanks,

        Bill
        



        On Feb 19, 2010, at 5:59 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:


                I know what you mean, but I don't see this as solely a 
prioritization problem. Sure that will help, but even if we do prioritize, 
we're still all spending most of our time working for ICANN and that is looking 
like it will only get worse. How long can the organisation hold if that's the 
case? 

                If the question is too contentious, let's leave it aside. But 
in that case, we still need to come up with a second topic.

                Stéphane
                
                
                Le 19 févr. 2010 à 14:49, Gomes, Chuck a écrit :


                        If others want this topic, that is fine.  But I am not 
sure it is one well suited for the Board because it is one that we need to work 
and we are. 
                        
                        Chuck
                        
                        
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                        I would like to propose a 2nd topic for the Board 
dinner (I believe the custom initiated by Avri was to have 2 topics).
                        
                        As we saw yesterday from our discussions during the 
Council meeting, there is a danger of staff being overloaded by the current 
workload. And as I pointed out, my worry is more for us volunteers that have to 
balance an extremely demanding ICANN workload, for which we are neither paid 
nor compensated in any way, with our real lives and jobs. So I guess there 
comes a point where the question must be asked: is a system based on so much 
volunteer involvement viable in the long run, and if we want to keep the system 
as is (with the obvious benefits of being truly multi stakeholder), what 
solutions are there to make it viable (for example, more staff as Mike 
suggested yesterday)?
                        
                        Thoughts?
                        
                        Stéphane