RE: [council] Point for Discussion
- To: "Avri Doria" <avri@xxxxxxx>, "GNSO Council" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [council] Point for Discussion
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:06:10 -0400
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- Thread-topic: [council] Point for Discussion
Thanks for the response Avri. Please note my comments below.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: [council] Point for Discussion
> Speaking personally, i would be concerned about such a change
> for several reasons. Among those reasons:
> - There has to be a difference between appointing 3
> representatives and appointing someone to carry the voice and
> vote of the constituency. Although most of the
> constituencies seem to hold their representatives to uniform
> voting, i do not see anything in the by laws mandating this.
> I think it is important to maintain the possibility that
> every representative participates as an trusted individual,
> in the knowledge that if she or he behaves contrary to
> the interests of the constituencies, she/he might lose their seat.
> Behaving in the interests of the constituency may not always
> require constituency discipline.
What I proposed would not limit this in any way.
> - It would lessen the pressure to actually have people attend
> the meetings and participate in the discussion.
Most issues do not involve voting so I am not sure this would happen and
as constituencies we would be able to manage participation internally
with our reps.
> - The inner working of constituencies are, in some cases,
> opaque, we would therefore have to take someone's word for
> it. And while the constituency could complain afterwards,
> the vote would already be complete.
We wouldn't need to make it overly complicated and if we cannot take
people's word, we have a bigger problem.
> - It doesn't account for the votes of nomcom appointees who
> might miss a meeting.
Agreed but that is the same as it is today.
> I would be more in favor of reviewing the proxy voting
> provisions as part of the GNSO reform, or assuming the GSNO
> gets to make some of its own rules after the reform, consider
> a new proxy policy at that point.
> On 11 jul 2007, at 16.03, Gomes, Chuck wrote:
> > I fully understand the reason for eliminating proxy voting on the
> > Council and support it, but I would like to propose the
> following for
> > consideration by the Council.
> > It seems to me that no constituency should be denied any of their
> > votes in cases where the constituency as a whole has taken
> a position
> > on an issue and one of their Council representatives cannot
> > participate in a meeting. In such a case, it seems reasonable to
> > allow any one constituency representative to case all the votes for
> > the constituency provided an officer of the constituency
> confirms that
> > the vote indeed reflects the wishes of the full consituency as
> > determined through the constituencies established processes. As I
> > envision this, it would only apply in cases where a vote
> was announced
> > in advance, a constituency considered the choices and the
> > as a whole provided direction to its reps regarding how to vote;
> > otherwise, we would simply be back to proxy voting as
> previously used.
> > I am not suggesting this because of any recent or anticiapted issue
> > but rather think that it is a procedure we should define before we
> > encounter such a situation.
> > Thoughts?
> > I am not suggesting this as an agenda item for tomorrows
> meeting but
> > simply one for list discussion. Depending on the discussion that
> > follows, we could put this item on a future agenda.
> > Chuck Gomes
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