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[council] GNSO Council revised draft minutes 28 Nov. 05

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[To: council[at]gnso.icann.org]

Dear Council Members,

Please find the revised draft minutes of the GNSO Council meeting held
in Vancouver on 28 November 2005.
Liz Williams has been added to the list of attendees.

I apologise for the version that is currently on the Council list, this version will be easier to read.

Please let me know what other changes you would like made.

Thank you very much.

Kind regards,
Glen

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Glen de Saint Géry
GNSO Secretariat - ICANN
gnso.secretariat[at]gnso.icann.org
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<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">28 November 2005 </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Proposed <A 
href="http://gnso.icann.org/meetings/agenda-28nov05.shtml";>agenda and related 
documents</A> </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><B>List of 
attendees:</B><BR>Philip 
Sheppard - Commercial &amp; Business Users C. <BR>Marilyn Cade - Commercial 
&amp; Business Users C. <BR>Grant Forsyth - Commercial &amp; Business Users C - 
remote participation <BR>Greg Ruth - ISCPC - absent - apologies - proxy to Tony 
Holmes<BR>Antonio Harris - ISCPC - proxy to Tony Holmes (joined meeting after 
roll call) <BR>Tony Holmes - ISCPC<BR>Thomas Keller- Registrars <BR>Ross Rader 
- 
Registrars (joined meeting after roll call) <BR>Bruce Tonkin - Registrars 
<BR>Ken Stubbs - gTLD registries<BR>Philip Colebrook - gTLD registries - remote 
participation <BR>Cary Karp - gTLD registries<BR>Lucy Nichols - Intellectual 
Property Interests C - absent - apologies - proxy to Niklas Lagergren 
<BR>Niklas 
Lagergren - Intellectual Property Interests C <BR>Kiyoshi Tsuru - Intellectual 
Property Interests C. - absent - apologies - proxy to Niklas Lagergren 
<BR>Robin 
Gross - Non Commercial Users C.- remote participation <BR>Norbert Klein - Non 
Commercial Users C.<BR>Alick Wilson - Nominating Committee appointee - remote 
participation <BR>Maureen Cubberley - Nominating Committee appointee<BR>Avri 
Doria - Nominating Committee appointee </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">17 Council Members<BR><BR><B>ICANN 
Staff</B><BR>Olof Nordling - Manager, Policy Development Coordination - absent 
- 
apologies <BR>Maria Farrell - ICANN GNSO Policy Support Officer<BR>Liz Williams 
- Senior Policy Counselor <BR>Tina Dam - Chief gTLD Registry Liaison <BR>Diane 
Schroeder - General Manager, Conferences, Administration &amp; Finance <BR>Glen 
de Saint Géry - GNSO Secretariat <BR><BR><BR><B>GNSO Council 
Liaisons</B><BR>Suzanne Sene - GAC Liaison - absent - apologies <BR>Bret 
Fausett 
- acting ALAC Liaison - absent - apologies <BR><BR>Michael Palage - ICANN Board 
member - absent - apologies <BR>Quorum present at 9: 12 PST.<BR><BR>Two MP3 
recordings of the second part of the meeting (not very clear) <BR><A 
class=moz-txt-link-freetext 
href="http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO-Council20051122.mp3";>http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO-Council20051122.mp3</A>
 
<BR><A class=moz-txt-link-freetext 
href="http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO2-20051122;MP3.mp3";>http://gnso-audio.icann.org/GNSO2-20051122;MP3.mp3</A>
 
<BR><BR><BR><B>Bruce Tonkin</B> and <STRONG>Philip Sheppard</STRONG> chaired 
this teleconference. <BR><BR><STRONG>Approval of 
Agenda</STRONG><BR><BR><STRONG>Diane Schroeder</STRONG> addressed the meeting 
informing the Council of an important time modification to the schedule for the 
GNSO Public Forum and GNSO Council meeting on Friday 2 December 2005 in 
Vancouver.<BR><BR><STRONG>Marilyn Cade</STRONG> proposed ending the meeting 
early to prepare for the joint meeting with the ICANN Board in the afternoon. 
<BR><BR><STRONG>Ken Stubbs</STRONG>, seconded by <STRONG>Marilyn Cade</STRONG> 
proposed <STRONG>Philip Sheppard </STRONG>as chair for the election 
process.<BR><BR>Motion carried unanimously<BR><STRONG>Decision 1: Philip 
Sheppard chaired the GNSO Council meeting for the election process. 
<BR><BR>I<FONT size=3>tem 3: Election of GNSO Council chair <BR>- Bruce Tonkin 
has been nominated and seconded <BR>- term from 18 Nov 2005 until one month 
after 2005 AGM (4 Jan 2006)</FONT></STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Philip Sheppard</STRONG> 
proposed: <BR>Whereas Bruce Tonkin had been nominated by Ken Stubbs and 
seconded 
by Ross Rader as GNSO Council chair for the period from 18 November 2005 until 
one month after 2005 AGM (4 January 2006)<BR>Recommended that Bruce Tonkin be 
elected as GNSO Council chair for the period 18 November 2005 until one month 
after the 2005 ICANN Annual General Meeting (4 January 2006). </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Philip Sheppard</STRONG> 
called for a formal roll call vote.<BR><BR>The motion carried 
unanimously.<BR>No 
vote was recorded for Tony Harris who joined the meeting late. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Decision 2: Bruce Tonkin 
was elected as GNSO Council chair for the period 18 November 2005 until one 
month after the 2005 ICANN Annual General Meeting (4 January 2006). 
</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Philip Sheppard</STRONG> 
formally handed the chair to <STRONG>Bruce Tonkin</STRONG>.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Item 4: Approval of 
minutes<BR>- GNSO Council teleconference - 13 October 2005<BR>- GNSO Council 
teleconference - 20 October 2005</STRONG></FONT><BR><BR><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Maureen Cubberley </STRONG>moved 
the 
adoption of the minutes.<BR>The motion carried. Niklas Lagergren 
abstained</FONT><BR><BR><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Decision 3: The GNSO Council 
minutes 
of 13 October 2005 and 20 October 2005 were 
adopted</STRONG></FONT>.<BR><BR><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Item 5: Evaluation of new gtlds 
(.biz, .info etc as well as .travel,<BR>.jobs. .mobi etc)<BR>- <A 
href="http://www.gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg01519.html";>update
 
on questions to structure the evaluation</A></STRONG></FONT><BR><BR><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Olof Nordling</STRONG> commented 
that the </FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><A 
href="http://www.gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg01519.html";>document
 
</A>elaborated the need for further evaluation of recently introduced gTLDs and 
proposed an approach for this, focused to inform ongoing work on policy aspects 
regarding the introduction of new gTLDs. <BR>Discussions on an evaluation of 
the 
ongoing sTLD round were under way with the consultant that performed the main 
evaluation of the “proof-of-concept” round for ICANN. It was recommended that 
the GNSO Council stated that questions relating to selection criteria, 
allocation methods and contractual conditions were of particular relevance in 
this context. The document proposed a draft list of questions to this 
end.<BR>The report was designed to give the GNSO Council the information 
necessary to discuss and decide on ways to proceed with additional evaluation 
aspects of assigned new TLDs. <BR><BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Maureen Cubberley </STRONG>referred 
to page 8 of the <A 
href="http://www.gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg01519.html";>report,</A>
 
'consideration for additional review', and commented that there was a need for 
emphasis on the process of decision making that informed the evaluation. It was 
essential to look at the content of the recent Request for Proposals (RFP) for 
the sponsored round of gTLDs </FONT>.<BR><STRONG><BR><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bruce Tonkin</FONT></STRONG><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"> pointed out that the new gTLD process was 
under discussion, and that the evaluation was driven by a process several years 
ago. There were two issues, one, how to improve the process and the second, 
should new gTLDs be introduced. <BR><BR><STRONG>Marilyn Cade</STRONG> noted 
from 
the Business Constituency’s perspective, that clear guidance was given for the 
recent round of gTLDs to be sponsored. Sponsored was discussed in depth yet 
there appeared to be a limited match in the case of some of the applicants. 
Further guidance and criteria on ‘sponsored’was required. 
<BR><BR><STRONG>Maureen Cubberley</STRONG> commented that ambiguities in the 
RFP 
led to the issue.<BR><BR><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin</STRONG> proposed that the 
project 
manager (Miriam Sapiro) produce a ‘lessons learnt’ paper, a quick follow up of 
the report in terms of the outcome, which should not be wider but intended as 
input to a subsequent wider process and that an "independent external review" 
be 
carried out by someone different from the project 
manager.<BR><BR><STRONG>ACTION 
</STRONG><BR>Council was encouraged to examine the list of questions and 
provide 
further questions to Miriam Sapiro. <BR>Further it was suggested that Miriam 
Sapiro do a presentation at the GNSO Public Forum on Friday 2 December 2005. 
<BR><BR><STRONG>Item 6: Policy Development Process for new gtlds<BR>- discuss 
issues report<BR>- decide whether to commence a 
PDP</STRONG><BR><BR><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin</STRONG> referred to the ICANN <A 
href="http://www.icann.org/general/archive-bylaws/bylaws-08apr05.htm#AnnexA";>Bylaws</A>.
 
<BR>Section 2. Creation of the Issue Report <BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Within fifteen (15) calendar days after 
receiving either (i) an instruction from the Board; (ii) a properly supported 
motion from a Council member; or (iii) a properly supported motion from an 
Advisory Committee, the Staff Manager will create a report (an "Issue Report"). 
Each Issue Report shall contain at least the following:<BR>Section 2. Creation 
of the Issue Report had been completed<BR><BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Section 2 e. A recommendation from the 
Staff 
Manager as to whether the Council should initiate the PDP for this issue (the 
"Staff Recommendation"). Each Staff Recommendation shall include the opinion of 
the ICANN General Counsel regarding whether the issue proposed to initiate the 
PDP is properly within the scope of the ICANN policy process and within the 
scope of the GNSO. In determining whether the issue is properly within the 
scope 
of the ICANN policy process, the General Counsel shall examine whether such 
issue:<BR><BR>The staff manager, Olof Nordling had recommended that a PDP be 
initiated.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin 
</STRONG>proposed</FONT> <FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">that at the 
current meeting the Council vote to commence a PDP.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Marilyn Cade</STRONG>, 
seconded by <STRONG>Tom Keller</STRONG> proposed: <BR>Whereas, the GNSO Council 
recognises that the review of the GNSO Council held in 2004 recommended that 
the 
PDP timelines be reviewed.<BR>The GNSO votes to initiate the PDP on new gTLDs. 
The GNSO will develop a work program in consultation with the ICANN staff and 
ICANN board that sets out a timeframe for work<BR><BR>The vote was by show of 
hands. <BR>The motion carried unanimously. No abstentions 
<BR><BR><STRONG>Decision 4: <BR>Whereas, the GNSO Council recognises that the 
review of the GNSO Council held in 2004 recommended that the PDP timelines be 
reviewed.<BR>The GNSO votes to initiate the PDP on new gTLDs. The GNSO will 
develop a work program in consultation with the ICANN staff and ICANN board 
that 
sets out a timeframe for work<BR></STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Item 7: <A 
href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/tf-final-rpt-25oct05.htm";>WHOIS: <B>Final 
task force report on a policy recommendation and advice on a procedure for 
handling conflicts between a registrar/registry's legal obligations under 
privacy laws and their contractual obligations to ICANN </B></A><BR><BR>- vote 
on final recommendation as completed by the WHOIS task force on<BR>19 
Oct</STRONG><BR><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin</STRONG> noted that the "advice" as set 
forth was not consensus policy.<BR><STRONG>Niklas Lagergren</STRONG> stated 
that 
the task force Final Report was supported unanimously by the WHOIS task 
force.<BR><STRONG>Ross Rader</STRONG>, a member of the task force raised a 
procedural question that after the task force had already voted on the final 
report, it should be made precise that reference was to the gTLD WHOIS service 
and did not refer to the protocol, the RIR WHOIS service or the country code 
WHOIS service. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Tom Keller 
</STRONG>seconded by <STRONG>Niklas Lagergren</STRONG> proposed 
that:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The GNSO votes in 
favour of the following consensus policy recommendation from the WHOIS task 
force <BR><B><A 
href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/tf-final-rpt-25oct05.htm";>CONSENSUS POLICY 
RECOMMENDATION</A></B> </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">In order to facilitate 
reconciliation of any conflicts between local/national mandatory privacy laws 
or 
regulations and applicable provisions of the ICANN contract regarding the 
collection, display and distribution of personal data via the gTLD Whois 
service, ICANN should: </FONT></P>
<OL>
  <LI>
  <P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Develop and publicly document a 
  procedure for dealing with the situation in which a registrar or registry can 
  credibly demonstrate that it is legally prevented by local/national privacy 
  laws or regulations from fully complying with applicable provisions of its 
  ICANN contract regarding the collection, display and distribution of personal 
  data via the gTLD WHOIS service. </FONT></P>
  <LI>
  <P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Create goals for the procedure 
  which include: </FONT></P>
  <OL type=a>
    <LI><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ensuring that ICANN staff is 
    informed of a conflict at the earliest appropriate juncture; </FONT>
    <LI><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Resolving the conflict, if 
    possible, in a manner conducive to ICANN's Mission, applicable Core Values 
    and the stability and uniformity of the Whois system; </FONT>
    <LI><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Providing a mechanism for the 
    recognition, if appropriate, in circumstances where the conflict cannot be 
    otherwise resolved, of an exception to contractual obligations to those 
    registries/registrars to which the specific conflict applies with regard to 
    collection, display and distribution of personally identifiable data via 
the 
    gTLD WHOIS service; and </FONT>
    <LI><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Preserving sufficient 
    flexibility for ICANN staff to respond to particular factual 
  </FONT></LI></OL></LI></OL>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The GNSO recommends the ICANN 
staff 
consider the advice given in the task force report as to a recommended 
procedure.</FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR><BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin </STRONG>called for 
formal roll call vote.<BR><BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The motion carried.<BR>26 Votes in support 
<BR><BR>Abstention from </FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Avri 
Doria:<BR>Reason: Does not believe goes far enough in protecting privacy 
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Decision 5 
</STRONG></FONT><STRONG><BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The GNSO 
votes in favour of the following consensus policy recommendation from the WHOIS 
task force <BR><A 
href="http://gnso.icann.org/issues/tf-final-rpt-25oct05.htm";>CONSENSUS POLICY 
RECOMMENDATION</A> </FONT></STRONG></P>
<P><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">In order to facilitate 
reconciliation of any conflicts between local/national mandatory privacy laws 
or 
regulations and applicable provisions of the ICANN contract regarding the 
collection, display and distribution of personal data via the gTLD WHOIS 
service, ICANN should: </FONT></STRONG></P>
<OL>
  <LI>
  <P><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Develop and publicly 
  document a procedure for dealing with the situation in which a registrar or 
  registry can credibly demonstrate that it is legally prevented by 
  local/national privacy laws or regulations from fully complying with 
  applicable provisions of its ICANN contract regarding the collection, display 
  and distribution of personal data via the gTLD WHOIS 
  service.</FONT></STRONG></P>
  <LI>
  <P><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Create goals for the 
  procedure which include: </FONT></STRONG></P>
  <OL type=a>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ensuring that ICANN 
    staff is informed of a conflict at the earliest appropriate juncture; 
    </FONT></STRONG>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Resolving the 
    conflict, if possible, in a manner conducive to ICANN's Mission, applicable 
    Core Values and the stability and uniformity of the Whois system; 
    </FONT></STRONG>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Providing a mechanism 
    for the recognition, if appropriate, in circumstances where the conflict 
    cannot be otherwise resolved, of an exception to contractual obligations to 
    those registries/registrars to which the specific conflict applies with 
    regard to collection, display and distribution of personally identifiable 
    data via the gTLD WHOIS service; and </FONT></STRONG>
    <LI><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Preserving sufficient 
    flexibility for ICANN staff to respond to particular factual 
    </FONT></STRONG></LI></OL></LI></OL>
<P><STRONG><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The GNSO recommends the 
ICANN staff consider the advice given in the task force report as to a 
recommended procedure.<BR><BR></FONT></STRONG><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Item 8: Policy development for 
IDNs<BR>- <A 
href="http://www.gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg01480.html";>discuss
 
background document</A><BR>- decide whether to formally request an issues 
report<BR>section 1 - Raising an Issue<BR>section 2 - Creation of the Issue 
Report</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin 
</STRONG>referred to the <A 
href="http://www.gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/council/msg01480.html";>background
 
document </A>which listed the existing resolutions, workshops, and information 
on the President’s Advisory Committee, of which Cary Karp was a member, and 
suggested that the GNSO request the staff to produce an issues report on the 
policy issues using the document as a basis.<BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bruce added that there should be clarity 
for 
the community what the policy aspects for the GNSO were.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Cary Karp</STRONG> 
commented that attention should not only be to constrain 2nd level of the DNS, 
the top level and the 3rd and 4th level of the DNS should also be considered. 
If 
control was invoked as a term of delegation the domain space could not be 
policed, which means that anything not permitted should be folded into the 
underlying possible standards. The first generation would be a normative 
framework that expected anything to be done but allowed policy constraint to 
guide. <BR><STRONG>Cary</STRONG> further clarified that internationalization 
meant changing the system to make it useable in the polyglot world we live in 
while making it work with Cambodia, for example, is localization. An Arabic 
version of.com is a localization. The concern is the translated versions of the 
gtld labels. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Discussion followed on the motion 
to be drafted. Due to the complexity of the topic and in order for constituency 
discussion,<STRONG> Bruce Tonkin </STRONG>proposed tabling the following motion 
to be voted on at the GNSO Council meeting on Friday 2 December 
2005:<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Tabled 
motion:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">WHEREAS, the GNSO Council 
recognises that one of the goals of ICANN to increase the internationalisation 
of the domain name space.<BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">WHEREAS, the GNSO Council wishes to liaise 
closely with the ccNSO with respect to the issue of localised IDN equivalents 
of 
existing gTLDs and ccTLDs, and for the purpose of jointly requesting an issues 
report. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The GNSO Council requests that the 
staff produce an issues report on the policy issues associated with creating 
internationalised equivalents of existing gTLDs, and second level domains 
within 
existing gTLDs. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">The GNSO also requests that the 
staff liaise with the ccNSO to ensure that the policy issues associated with 
internationalised versions of the existing ccTLDs can also be 
considered.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin</STRONG> 
proposed revisiting the process of the PDP on new gTLDs. and outlined the 
proposed work:<BR></FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">January to 
June <BR>- PDP on New gTLDs<BR>- PDP on IDNs<BR>- WHOIS task force - considered 
to drain a lot of resources<BR><BR><STRONG>Bruce Tonkin</STRONG> noted that 
with 
respect to issues such as WHOIS that will likely need to evolve over several 
years, it may be more efficient to spend a limited time on the issue each year, 
rather than tie up GNSO community and staff resources for the whole year, e.g. 
each year concentrate 3 months on an issue and spend 2 days face to face, then 
leave it alone and pick it up again. </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">There was general agreement on: 
</FONT><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR>- scheduling new gTLDs 
work 
program with significant face to face interaction time. <BR>- using new 
technologies, such as wikis and blogs to encourage community participation<BR>- 
setting up a group outside Council with expertise to support running a wiki on 
the new gTLD issues for the community beyond the council. <BR></FONT><FONT 
face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">- creating a structured mechanism to gather 
data </FONT><BR><BR><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Bruce 
Tonkin</STRONG> recommended that the Council as a whole deal with the new gTLD 
PDP using mailing lists, wiki, and a 2 day face to face meeting. Each new 
effort 
should take into account the GNSO Council review recommendations looking at 
what 
has gone before and what can be improved.<BR>The proposed IDN PDP would be 
managed by a task force of experts and the constituencies should work on 
identifying new people with particular skills.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><STRONG>Agenda Item 
deferred:<BR>Item 8: WHOIS task force<BR>- progress on purpose and definitions 
of contacts</STRONG></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><B>Bruce Tonkin</B> <B>declared 
the 
GNSO meeting closed and thanked everybody for participating.</B></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><B>The meeting ended: 11: 45 PST. 
</B></FONT></P>
<UL>
  <LI>
  <P><FONT face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><B>Next GNSO Council meeting 
  </B><STRONG>in Vancouver, Friday 2 December 2005 at 10:30 PST 
  </STRONG><BR>see: <A 
  href="http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/";>Calendar</A></FONT><FONT 
  face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><BR></FONT></P></LI></UL>
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